C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien on the power of Fiction

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Tim Keller discussing C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien's view on fiction and Christianity
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Andre Montana
Andre Montana Hace 8 minutos
Damnation preordained by a god for all by original sin. But alas, salvation is nigh for those scholars that can crack the code, and understand the riddles put forth in the book of confusion, interpreted a thousand ways, by a thousand versions of it's adherents. Designed this way as a cloaking device to test the filthy beggars that would come forth to try to escape their condemnation . For all us ignorant fledglings, incapable of discerning the intricate details of doctrines, paradoxes, and contradictions therein, we will burn by divine mandate. Billions will burn. But it's the price he's willing to pay to get what he wants for himself. God is love. Isn't god good? Or maybe he's Saron hahaha.
Allen Hace 18 horas
“I began to long for a book that understood me”
Phil Harrison Stowers
Annoying music interrupting the words. Absurd!
Ron Porter
Ron Porter Hace 2 días
Nailed it. Even a fool must admit the TRUTH.
Glenn Hubble
Glenn Hubble Hace 4 días
Great Video, Wonderful Authors and Writers, and do hope to see more on the Subject.
D C'mon
D C'mon Hace 7 días
The Music is so peaceful, touches your soul and quiets the Spirit!
NonBinary Dolphin
NonBinary Dolphin Hace 13 días
Sceptic Science
Sceptic Science Hace 19 días
Both Lewis and Tolkien had no training in Cosmology or Ancient History...had they known the facts..they would know the Bible is historized Fiction based on Mythology nor does the Universe need a divine Cause!
Sceptic Science
Sceptic Science Hace 15 días
Ultralord 4EVR Complexity Science explains why order exists...etc
Ultralord 4EVR
Ultralord 4EVR Hace 15 días
What is the universe? What reasons do you possess that the elements around us can be united as one?
Luther Kayban
Luther Kayban Hace 29 días
Anyone know where this is from? What sermon?
Donna Freeatlast
Donna Freeatlast Hace 29 días
Simonida Stankovic
Simonida Stankovic Hace un mes
Simonida Stankovic
Simonida Stankovic Hace un mes
QHarefield Hace un mes
The background music is beautiful - but it is too loud and it is distracting.
Dim Pan
Dim Pan Hace un mes
We as no native english speakers, demand asap eng subs! :P If anyone could help I would be grateful. Greeting from Greece.
Mary Graham
Mary Graham Hace 2 meses
Why the music, it is hard to hear over it.
Merry Arttoones
Merry Arttoones Hace 2 meses
Euchatastrophe ... is the resurrection of Jesus
Edward McClaran
Edward McClaran Hace 3 meses
I adore Tolkien and enjoy Lewis; I fundamentally disagree with their theological conclusions but have the greatest respect for the arguments, especially Tolkien's, and would give everything to go back in a time machine and stroll along the riverbank debating the great mysteries of Life & Death and with these two literary titans. Finish up in the Bird & Baby to wash it all down with a couple of pints, of course!!
God has a design for everyone of us.
Don Bailey
Don Bailey Hace 3 meses
The lord of the rings, is something i read a long time ago, when i was at a turning point in my life. It helped me face a fearfull unknown with a bit of something to hold on to that it wasnt a hopeless lost to strike out alone and leaveing all i knew behind. I bought a Bible one day and read the books of wisdom like a man dieing of thirst in the desert And finding water drank my fill and came back for more and more untill i had read every book of wisdom and to this day i can recite Many of the Book of Proverbs and Things from the book of sirach which is my favorite. But i read many others as well. With GOD you are never really alone and on your oun, i still have that Bible, and a cross , the pewter Corpse i took from an old chest in my anties house after she died, i made the cross , a bit of lead i made into the strip above our lords head, it has hung in every house i have called home. I am a christian, a Roman catholic from birth, but it was my choice to follow the faith i was born to.it was not forced on me I was not sold a bill of goods and told to swallow a pack of lies i didnt believe. I had my legs kicked out from under me , i was kicked in the teeth once i fell , and literally was given a year to live by a doctor. But iam still here. Not that i one point i couldnt have cared less if i still was or not. But i cannot , i will not explain my faith in GOD, its said, for those who believe no explanation is needed, For those who dont , none can be given. But if you read the books of Wisdom you will find it says the sluggard's hand is in the bowl but he will not lift it to his mouth, again It says, the fool considers your wisdom as a great stone and will Waste no time in. Tossing it away.
RottenDoctorGonzo Hace 3 meses
Jeff Goldblum speaks?
Global Digital Direct Subsidiarity Democracy
We don´t live in a world of science but a world of capitalism which is what we have overcome.
One Life
One Life Hace 4 meses
This was very well said about life that Love conquers death..Jesus Christ is the underlying reality...Amen..Jesus Christ is the one true mythical reality that all myths point to..The book the fairy tales is an excellent read
LM 007
LM 007 Hace 5 meses
Thats what we are lacking...the fairytale level..
Donna E Turner
Donna E Turner Hace 6 meses
The most important thing that modern people need to understand is that physics proves a supernatural world. God is real.
The Evolution of Love
CS Lewis said that "God becomes an author. And writes himself into his story".
Axel Mellgren
Axel Mellgren Hace 6 meses
Yes, wishful thinking can certainly make for beautiful thoughts.
Ultralord 4EVR
Ultralord 4EVR Hace 15 días
Everything starts with a wish. If you're not into wishful thinking, than what are you into?
Luther Kayban
Luther Kayban Hace 7 meses
Does anyone know what sermon this is from? I can’t find it anywhere
Lilac Milkshake
Lilac Milkshake Hace 19 horas
Maybe find by searching "Tim Keller" with words like "faith" - "belief" - "Bible"?
Lou Nowell
Lou Nowell Hace 8 meses
Jesus Christ was not the first deity to fit the 'resurrection myth'. Christianity definitely tried to assert itself onto reality, all monotheistic religions have attempted this. Christianity is but one of many stories that points to the underlying mythical reality, it is NOT the mythical reality itself.
RF95 Hace 3 meses
Lou Nowell I agree that it is not the adjectives that make Christ special, but who He is and what He did and said.
Lou Nowell
Lou Nowell Hace 3 meses
​@RF95 Sticking a bunch of English-language adjectives in front of Christ's name doesn't turn him into something special (especially when those include things like being 'manly' lmfao). Why, replace the words 'Saviour/Him/Christ' with the word 'Batman' in your spiel and it's just as coherent an argument. Which is to say, a completely incoherent argument, hinging on the fact that you've already sold your soul to Christ, so I doubt you'll be able to notice how vapid it comes across to anyone who hasn't.
RF95 Hace 3 meses
Lou Nowell Go ahead and find me someone more worthy of devotion than Jesus Christ. There is no other. What a drab, pitiful universe it would be if He weren’t Lord. I would want nothing to do with it, and surely we would be all better off if it never came to be. I can say nothing else but default to the following quote by Dostoevsky: “I believe that there is nothing lovelier, deeper, more sympathetic, more rational, more manly, and more perfect than the Saviour; I say to myself with jealous love that not only is there no one else like Him, but that there could be no one. I would even say more: If anyone could prove to me that Christ is outside the truth, and if the truth really did exclude Christ, I should prefer to stay with Christ and not with truth.”
Lou Nowell
Lou Nowell Hace 6 meses
@alrightthengreat I wrote a big reply before but ESvid seems to have deleted it randomly. Points to lots of things. I'm not qualified to say, and it'd do the story a disservice to try and sum up what it means in a YT comment - there's no shortage of literature on the subject. Simply tho to answer the question, I suppose it points to the human condition. Striving to be moral in the face of unjust persecution. A symbolic reminder of sacrifice as a path forward. Thing is... regardless of what the story points to, you'd have to be a literal God to know for sure whether that deep truth is actually the 'deepest' truth, or whether the Jesus story is the best way of pointing to that deeper truth in the present, and into the future. We can't even say whether it was the best story to have 1000 years ago, let alone now.
Sacred Music Tribe
Sacred Music Tribe Hace 8 meses
Eternity is written in the hearts of men
Simonida Stankovic
Simonida Stankovic Hace un mes
Frost Hace 8 meses
I'm more anti-religious than Christopher Hitchens, but this was a really nice video.
Lance Walker
Lance Walker Hace 3 meses
Not sure if it quite possible to more anti-religious than Christopher Hitchens though.
Lance Walker
Lance Walker Hace 3 meses
Ironically, the stories of Tolkien are profoundly more useful to an atheist (as I am as well) than I think they could possibly be for a theist.
der deutsche Adler
der deutsche Adler Hace 6 meses
Same as me.
Bernard S
Bernard S Hace 8 meses
Could the producers of youtube video learnedwhen and how to insert background music? I does nt need continuous music played loud overwhelming the narator.
la crema
la crema Hace 3 meses
Stfu and listen stop complaining
Peter Jongsma
Peter Jongsma Hace 9 meses
The Bible in the hands of incompetent people is utterly chaotic. Nothing Catholics believe can't be backed up with the Bible. Literally, Allegorically, Prophetically, Artistically,Theologically. eg Confession. Who can deny that Christ gave His Apostles the Holy Spirit and the Authority to forgive sin? It's there in black and white. egThe Saints. Who can deny the Cloud of witnesses? It's there in black and white. I could go on and on and on.... But then I'd be as tiresome and tedious as the militant Evangelicals.
Evan Rivet
Evan Rivet Hace 8 meses
I feel the same about the militant Evangelicals, but nowhere does it say anything about apostolic succession or confession of sins to a priest.
Don Bouchard
Don Bouchard Hace 8 meses
Time for us all to kneel at Jesus' feet, to count ourselves blessed, and to praise God. Thank you for your thoughts.
Daniel Clark
Daniel Clark Hace 9 meses
does anyone know the French agnostic that turned to Christ name??
zaggy3110 Hace 7 meses
emile cailliet sermons.faithlife.com/sermons/107602-emile-cailliet
Daniel Clark
Daniel Clark Hace 9 meses
Monty Ellingsworth
Monty Ellingsworth Hace 9 meses
The music is louder than needed... at times.
Túrin Strongbow
Túrin Strongbow Hace 10 meses
Amazing! Tolkien and Lewis are just absolutely, amazing!
David Jack
David Jack Hace 11 meses
And yet Tim Keller thinks that George MacDonald, who influenced both of them, wasn't even a Christian. Check out this link to Doug Gresham, Lewis's stepson, giving a much more informed view on the man Lewis said was "closer to the spirit of Christ than anyone else he had read"... esvid.net/video/v%C3%ADdeo-2msON_ULYO8.html
zigZagz TwitchTV
zigZagz TwitchTV Hace 11 meses
BLAH BLAH BLAH *god was real, and so was jesus, however they were simple employees of a much larger cosmic company*
Sam Carroll
Sam Carroll Hace 10 meses
cosmic company?
zigZagz TwitchTV
zigZagz TwitchTV Hace 11 meses
Our imaginations have run wild and all thanks to a very long and bad case of the telephone game.
Adam Hovey
Adam Hovey Hace 11 meses
I appreciate the fact, that some people on the internet, actually know that Catholics are Christian. I have yet to read any JRR Tolkien, but I've been reading CS Lewis a lot.
Lance Walker
Lance Walker Hace 3 meses
Tolkien is so much better, I understand my bias on this matter, but you absolutely must read Tolkien.
ZoneFighter1 Hace 5 meses
Roman Catholicism is not Christian hasn't been for decades, Some Catholics are Christian but the religion is not. The doctines of Rome are actually antichristian. The Council of Trent makes the Apostle Paul the author of most of the New Testament out to be a heretic when its the popes and cardinals who are the heretics. There may be actual Christians who are Mormons but that doesn't make the Christ of Mormoism the Christ of the Bible, its not. Every cult creates a counterfeit Christ. the ROman Catholic Church is no different.
John Sosa
John Sosa Hace 5 meses
If you like CS Lewis, read G.K. Chesterton!!! G.K.’s book “The Everlasting Man” helped Lewis overcome his atheism.
Lion_Crown_xD Hace 5 meses
@Efren Carino I dont understand why some people think they need to pray to saints. Can you explain it to me? As i understand it, we can pray directly to Jesus, because when he died the veil in the temple was torn in two, which shows that we can come directly to God now, not only the priests. And the saints are "only" human, why should we pray to them? This is not ment to offend anybody. I just try to understand it.
Efren Carino
Efren Carino Hace 6 meses
@Mary Cassidy Giving what you said. Do you think it's a mistake to pray or put TRUST in the virgin Mary? Since it takes away from Jesus in a way? Your thoughts?
Roger Guffey
Roger Guffey Hace 11 meses
Can anyone tell me where to find a print of the painting, early in the video, of Tolkien and Lewis strolling on Addison's Walk?
guyver86z Hace 11 meses
How many of you know this in your hearts as true? I could not have done any research or seen any video about this stuff but the words are like you own because when something is true God will let you know in your heart.
eric brufatto
eric brufatto Hace 11 meses
Sebastian Melmoth
Sebastian Melmoth Hace 11 meses
Music too annoying.
WeTube Hace un año
One Love
Stephen Atkins
Stephen Atkins Hace un año
Myth in ways seem truer sometimes. The gospel seems like myth in it's grand nature but it is the truth. It's all in the story teller.
buymebluepills Hace 16 días
@Michael Ford I was always a believer in God and Jesus but I didn't study the Gospels, so I was susceptible to 'arguments' against Jesus' passion. I read the NT last year followed by the OT and read the NT again. Jesus Christ is the underlying reality as this narrator says and the Gospels and the Bible are a gift to humanity.
Michael  Ford
Michael Ford Hace 2 meses
The Gospel seems like a myth (To most), because it appears to be "too good to be true," which I also believe to be true. The love of Jesus seems to be something unfathomable, which it is.
InnerMittenSignal Hace un año
Life was Given to us
I’m so terribly glad I was raised in a Christian household. Christianity was the greatest inheritance I have ever received. Edit: I never realized that was Tim Keller’s voice haha he’s great too.
Abel Philosophy
Abel Philosophy Hace 27 días
Life was Given to us amen . Same here
Kevin Barton
Kevin Barton Hace un año
I just stumbled on a video saying that Tolkien was burning in Hell and the 'The Lord of the Rings' is Satanic. Thank God these people are in a minority of the fanatical fringe. Judge not, lest you too may be judged. They might have missed that one.
Ian Philp
Ian Philp Hace 5 meses
@Dugon man Mormon's made up their religion, got your special underwear on lol Your going to hell mate an yes i am a Protestant (we read the real Bible no the old Joe Smith i found golden books but i lost them but believe me anyway... Pfft stupid America religion......
raygon8 Hace 6 meses
@Dugon manAnd Mormon mythology has no nutty ideas ? give me a brake
Connor Durham
Connor Durham Hace 8 meses
Dugon man you believe you God was a man on another planet...
Dugon man
Dugon man Hace 11 meses
Betting a good $100 that the guy saying that was most likely a protestant. Mormon myself so people will tell me I have no right to talk but protestants tend to have borderline nutty ideas that make it hard for me to listen to them.
Kevin Barton
Kevin Barton Hace un año
@Life was Given to us this was only a short distance from dangerous fundamentalism making assumptions about the spiritual fate of Tolkien and others. Lots of hate.
Jonathan Lewis
Jonathan Lewis Hace un año
notice that every popular fantasy story takes place in a medieval-style world. The Middle Ages era was the most intensely religious period in our history. Our yearning for the medieval world is a sign that we are fed up with the modern world and it's secular atmosphere. People want to live in a world where the mysterious and the spiritual are still important. This why the most poplar fiction is stuff like Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones, etc.
david good
david good Hace 4 días
The mysteries are solved through faith in Christ. That is that the true test of free will is faith, in that it leads us to the truth. And only if that will is one with God's will, will it lead us to His grace, where all the answers lie in wait. Waiting for the truth to unfold, and the mysteries to be solved.
david good
david good Hace 4 días
@Ionut Chiorean In the end the truth will be known. That belief in God is the connection to ones fulfillment in the hereafter. We might not see it now, but when the time comes we will all see whats real. And then we will be judged. Those that believe in Him are led toward eternal grace by their own free will, and those that do not will be turned back to their own devices. Even an atheist will be able to see his lot at this time. The truth one seeks will then lie in the balance. Grace or consequence. The choice will be yours, and then your purpose will have to be realized, and that it is to attain God's grace. And as the stories go, " If at first you dont succeed; try, try again." We'll keep coming back until we get it right. Those who dont learn from their past will be doomed to repeat it. Maybe that part sounds familiar? And maybe Christ only knows for sure. This is where faith lies.
Ultralord 4EVR
Ultralord 4EVR Hace 15 días
Only in the medieval world, in autarkic society, every part of life has meaning. Food is celebrated because it is scarce, the nights are real threats because each could be the last, health is cherished because it is fleeting all around. Nowadays romance is gone, because everything is predictable and distilled to pure reason.
Book Dragon 61
Book Dragon 61 Hace un mes
@Simonida Stankovic Sadly, most readers nowadays complain that the European medieval esque setting is a tired, outdated, boring trope. But we tend to forget why fantasy levitates toward such a setting, and why it still and probably always will have such good meaning, as you've explained above. I've always been a huge fan of the Ye Olde medieval fantasy style, and medieval/renaissance history as a whole. I tend to get annoyed when these cynical readers call out the classic fantasy setting as unimaginative and unoriginal, but we have completely forgotten that originality is just a disguise of ideas that have been borrowed and used over and over ever since the dawn of storytelling. Now I'm all for new and creative ideas, but I find this whole "out with the old and in with the new" mindset in fantasy as an unhealthy way of thinking in literature, and It's irritating that people look into Fantasy with a trendy mentality, because that's how oversaturation is caused and it robs the genre of its original meaning and purpose. We do need to acknowledge however that where the Tolkien imitators went wrong was they just blindly ripped him off without diving deep into what made LotR great, and what Tolkien's and Lewis's inspirations were, besides the obvious. This is also why I can't stand Urban Fantasy. It just doesn't have the same appeal to me as classic fantasy.
Simonida Stankovic
Simonida Stankovic Hace un mes
Brilliant remarque and analysis, I fully agree. Medieval period (in both, Western and Eastern Christian World in Europe as a whole, including the early christianized CAUCASUS and the BALKANS, as well as the rest of the EASTERN and WESTERN Europe and the Nordic lands), was and still is our primary Source of Spiritual, Ethic and Aesthetic Inspiration, as well as our main cultural Identity, no matter of how much difficult, dangerous (and short) was to live back then, with life and history overcharged with so many dramatic things and events that characterised the Middle Ages (constant Wars, Fights of the clans for the Thrones, Church controlling every aspect of life, and clergy being corrupted and power thirsty, let alone the Plage, Crussades, féodal système, ect. ), but......the general atmosphere was however focused on something deeper and more essential then just surviving, or living in comfort ...something that was giving the full Meaning of Life and that was overpassing the death, fear and injustice - and that was the Promice of Eternal Life, the world above Time and Space reflected in every aspect of the earthly life of those days and that is why the Medieval Era is attracting us so much, now more then ever before ! So thirsty we are for the Water of Eternal Life...... Also, it needs to be mentioned and pointed out, that in Middle Ages (which is quite a long period, from the fall of the Western Roman Empire, the Age of Big Migrations of the Indo-European tribes (from the East European planes, Caucasus and the whole of Euro-Asia to the West) untill the time of Rainassance).....throughout the Middle Ages, along with Christianity, co-existed the Old Indo-European faith, or rather - believes, customs, myths, rituals and system of values, living its paralel life, which shaped Christian Culture in its own typically European manner and made it be the natural continuation of its ancestral Faith and Ethic Code of its ancient society. That included the idea of the ideal Hero such as is Tolkien's Aragorn, the idea of the Noble Knight ready to sacrifice himself for the good of the whole society..... which exists in the Arthurian Legend coming from the Caucasian Epic "NART" and inte mixing with old Celtic and Norse legends. Actually, the very essence of the genuine teachings of Christ were anyway part of the old Indo-European idea of the Eternal LIFE and the moral values that leads one individual or one People towards that Life. That is something that was very much understood by TOLKIEN, and precisely That made out of the LoTR TRILOGY and all other of his Fantasy works, - a Pan-European and international Saga of the human Race. The beauty and strength of the Tolkien's Work lies in his capacity to sinthetize all of these mentioned elements: ancient Myths, Epic legends and its Ethic Codes and Ideals of the Self-Sacrifying Heroes, with the Self Sacrifice of Jesus and his Re-Birth in Éternity - the Resurrection... all of that, Tolkien did in the most beautiful poetical Fantasy form of a huge Fairy Tale. He created a Magic that came true by being recognized and adopted by the most of us, no matter of which faith, religion or ethnicity. He, as a true believer with no boundaries, knew and understood how to gather the common European and Human heritage and put it together, coronating it with a Crown of the Savior. Therefore, he gave us what to hold on to, beyond the strict religious Dogma or ideology; he gave us the Table to feast, a pillar to relie to and, above all, he reminded us what we used to be and what we can be again - if we only believe !
Eve Williams
Eve Williams Hace un año
The story of the friendship between Lewis and Tolkien is is the story of a love that challenged the ethos of a popular culture in which they were to become huge figures. Together, they were bringer of hope. esvid.net/video/v%C3%ADdeo-ioUXIk9Zsu0.html
Zac C
Zac C Hace un año
Music was way too loud
Túrin Strongbow
Túrin Strongbow Hace un año
Aleksi Laine
Aleksi Laine Hace un año
This video is a work of art
Brian Zobell
Brian Zobell Hace un año
Thanks very well done. God lives.
Nathan Prindler
Nathan Prindler Hace un año
This is what Jordan Peterson needs to understand. He knows the power of Christianity in the ethical and mythic sense, but hopefully he will soon believe as C.S. Lewis did that Christianity is “myth become fact.”
Darrell Jones
Darrell Jones Hace 20 días
well stated.
Matt Lane
Matt Lane Hace un mes
@The505Guys You should also check out Mere Christianity by CS Lewis, as well as Tim Keller’s Uncover series. Links below. This Mere Christianity link is an audiobook of sorts, but it’s obviously a book that you can purchase anywhere. I pray that Christ will lead you to accept him as Lord and savior and that you will know the “Logos” of the universe. God bless! esvid.net/group/PL9boiLqIabFhrqabptq3ThGdwNanr65xU esvid.net/group/PLgUOiLkOFc6moDy9ImkR4N4D373Hqx4dv
Merry Arttoones
Merry Arttoones Hace 2 meses
Luz Delapaz
Luz Delapaz Hace 3 meses
I believe he has had an epiphany. But, for now, he is careful not exposing his redeeming experience with Christ. Why? Well...he is the type of person that needs to be able to explain the mystical union with Christ in human words. He is also in a country that is so far left that it can raise all kinds of problems. When one begins this marriage with Christ, one is so consumed in the love story that you don't discuss the experiences, yet. You want nothing to disrupt the growing relationship, especially when you don't have the words that humans can understand. Then again, as Paul and John state the word is not for everyone because they are children of lies. Also, many can't see as of yet. This is why he gave parables to many in the outskirts I, too, didn't understand. When the spirit finally rescued me (four decades later) everything changed in 24 hours. Part of the change was/is constant prayer (nonstop conversation with God) and an effortless understanding of God's words. He speaks to me through the bible. I can feel a the breath of the spirit. So, I am sure this is Jordan Peterson's case. He has many similarities to the way I teach and process. His mind is too fast and the spiritual experience is overwhelming for fast thinkers. It's one affect after the other non stop. But, the faith is unshakeable. I think he is actually there.
The505Guys Hace 4 meses
​@Rick Davis Thanks for the link, I appreciate your help regarding this. I've had a look and I agree that the ESV seems the easiest to follow.
RuthParodies Hace un año
Very nice- Gained some wisdome ;)
jimeas popoloiv
jimeas popoloiv Hace un año
Im an elapsed catholic and kind of atheist this days, but videos like this makes me want to go to church again and pray the rosary. This video is so beautiful, your voice is soothing and the choice of music is perfect. Well done mate!
Abel Philosophy
Abel Philosophy Hace 27 días
jimeas popoloiv . Please , go to church and pray , but only to the Father in the Name of the son that the Holy Spirit may fill you with His Presence and power
John Sosa
John Sosa Hace 5 meses
Check out Edward Feser bro. His book “the last superstition “ is a refutation of the “new atheism “ . He’s a Catholic Philosopher. Heavy in medieval Scholastism/Thomism
Julie Benade
Julie Benade Hace 6 meses
Mary us the cause for our salvation.
Donna E Turner
Donna E Turner Hace 6 meses
Pray the Rosary. Love God because He loves you.
Colby White
Colby White Hace 8 meses
@The TyRant So are you saying that Jesus doesn't intercede for us? Jesus loves us enough that, He not only sent Himself, that when he went back up into Heaven, He sent The Holy Spirit for the disciples in order for Him to intercede for Jesus. This is what john piper says on the topic. 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we wait for it with patience. 26 Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. 27 And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. Christianity is the only religion in the world that affirms that there is one, and only one, true God, and that there are three divine persons in the one God: God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit. This is called the doctrine of the Trinity. The church did not come to embrace the doctrine of the Trinity because there is a sentence in the Bible that says: "there is one God existing as three persons equal in divine essence, but distinct in personhood." There is no sentence like that in the Bible. Rather the reason the church has embraced this doctrine is because the Bible unwaveringly speaks of one true God, not three Gods, and yet reveals the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit as God, and as distinct persons. If this perplexes you, keep in mind: We are in no position as creatures to dictate to our Creator what he may or should be like. God is absolute reality. He was there before anything else was, and he did not come into being, but always was. Therefore nobody made him the way he is, and there is no reason he is the way he is. He simply is. That is his name: "I Am Who I Am" (Exodus 3:14). Our role is not to say what can and can't be in God, but to learn who he is and who we are, and to shape our lives according to his reality - his will. We submit to the way he is. He doesn't submit to the way we are or the way we think he should be. One of the places where the third person of the Trinity, the Holy Spirit, is revealed most fully is in Romans 8. We are focusing on his work today in verses 26-27, but it would be good for us to see what has been revealed so far about the work of the person of the Holy Spirit. What emerges in this chapter is that the Spirit is not just some force or power of God the Father, but a person who works along with the Father and in relation to the Father. Here's an overview of what the Spirit does for us. And one of my goals in mentioning these things is that you might love the Spirit. Jesus said that the first and greatest commandment is to love God with all that you are. The Spirit is God. Therefore, you should love the Spirit - as a person. Not as a force or power, but as a person who thinks about you and has emotions for you and works for you - indeed, as we will see in a moment, prays for you. According to verse 2 the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus sets you free from the law of sin and death. According to verse 4 the Spirit helps you fulfill the just requirement of the law. According to verse 6 the Spirit give life and peace. According to verse 11 God will raise you from the dead by the Spirit who dwells in you. According to verse 13 the Spirit helps you put to death the deeds of the body. According to verse 14 the sons of God are led by the Spirit. According to verses 15-16 the Spirit bears witness in us that we are the children of God and so gives us assurance of our salvation. According to verse 23 the Holy Spirit is the foretaste and guarantee of our final redemption. And now in verses 26-27 the Spirit helps us when we don't know how to pray as we should. That's what we want to look at this morning. Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. 27 And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. The word "likewise" at the beginning of verse 26 means that Paul has been giving help to us in what he has been saying and now he wants to give us some more help by explaining that the Spirit himself helps us. The way he has been helping us is by telling us why our sufferings are worth enduring for Christ. All of verses 18-25 give reasons for why we should hold fast to our hope in the midst of futility and decay and groaning and death. Now Paul says, "likewise" - in the same way - the Holy Spirit helps us in our weakness.
Monique Amado - Artist & Life Coach
This is so good. The music, of course, is wonderful too, but if there's a way to edit it so that it doesn't drown out what's being said, it might be help. Thank you for sharing though!
ericojon -
ericojon - Hace 4 meses
@tyghr I stopped listening, The music is intrusive. I'll seek a different reading without it.
tyghr Hace 11 meses
The music is too loud and vocal to easily understand Tim Keller. Beautiful lecture, easy fix (volume balance).
Thiago Da Costa
Thiago Da Costa Hace un año
Thanks for this video
IsaacH1273 Hace un año
this vid itself was a really well done piece of cinema.
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