C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien on the power of Fiction

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Edward McClaran
Edward McClaran Hace 16 días
I adore Tolkien and enjoy Lewis; I fundamentally disagree with their theological conclusions but have the greatest respect for the arguments, especially Tolkien's, and would give everything to go back in a time machine and stroll along the riverbank debating the great mysteries of Life & Death and with these two literary titans. Finish up in the Bird & Baby to wash it all down with a couple of pints, of course!!
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Don Bailey
Don Bailey Hace 23 días
The lord of the rings, is something i read a long time ago, when i was at a turning point in my life. It helped me face a fearfull unknown with a bit of something to hold on to that it wasnt a hopeless lost to strike out alone and leaveing all i knew behind. I bought a Bible one day and read the books of wisdom like a man dieing of thirst in the desert And finding water drank my fill and came back for more and more untill i had read every book of wisdom and to this day i can recite Many of the Book of Proverbs and Things from the book of sirach which is my favorite. But i read many others as well. With GOD you are never really alone and on your oun, i still have that Bible, and a cross , the pewter Corpse i took from an old chest in my anties house after she died, i made the cross , a bit of lead i made into the strip above our lords head, it has hung in every house i have called home. I am a christian, a Roman catholic from birth, but it was my choice to follow the faith i was born to.it was not forced on me I was not sold a bill of goods and told to swallow a pack of lies i didnt believe. I had my legs kicked out from under me , i was kicked in the teeth once i fell , and literally was given a year to live by a doctor. But iam still here. Not that i one point i couldnt have cared less if i still was or not. But i cannot , i will not explain my faith in GOD, its said, for those who believe no explanation is needed, For those who dont , none can be given. But if you read the books of Wisdom you will find it says the sluggard's hand is in the bowl but he will not lift it to his mouth, again It says, the fool considers your wisdom as a great stone and will Waste no time in. Tossing it away.
RottenDoctorGonzo Hace 24 días
Jeff Goldblum speaks?
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Kimberly Anderson
Kimberly Anderson Hace un mes
This was very well said about life that Love conquers death..Jesus Christ is the underlying reality...Amen..Jesus Christ is the one true mythical reality that all myths point to..The book the fairy tales is an excellent read
LJC MLS Hace 2 meses
Thats what we are lacking...the fairytale level..
Donna E Turner
Donna E Turner Hace 3 meses
The most important thing that modern people need to understand is that physics proves a supernatural world. God is real.
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CS Lewis said that "God becomes an author. And writes himself into his story".
Axel Mellgren
Axel Mellgren Hace 3 meses
Yes, wishful thinking can certainly make for beautiful thoughts.
Luther Kayban
Luther Kayban Hace 4 meses
Does anyone know what sermon this is from? I can’t find it anywhere
Lou Nowell
Lou Nowell Hace 5 meses
Jesus Christ was not the first deity to fit the 'resurrection myth'. Christianity definitely tried to assert itself onto reality, all monotheistic religions have attempted this. Christianity is but one of many stories that points to the underlying mythical reality, it is NOT the mythical reality itself.
Lou Nowell
Lou Nowell Hace 2 meses
@alrightthengreat I wrote a big reply before but ESvid seems to have deleted it randomly. Points to lots of things. I'm not qualified to say, and it'd do the story a disservice to try and sum up what it means in a YT comment - there's no shortage of literature on the subject. Simply tho to answer the question, I suppose it points to the human condition. Striving to be moral in the face of unjust persecution. A symbolic reminder of sacrifice as a path forward. Thing is... regardless of what the story points to, you'd have to be a literal God to know for sure whether that deep truth is actually the 'deepest' truth, or whether the Jesus story is the best way of pointing to that deeper truth in the present, and into the future. We can't even say whether it was the best story to have 1000 years ago, let alone now.
alrightthengreat Hace 2 meses
Lou Nowell Great question. You will get the answer when you look at what the story of Jesus points to. It definitely does point to something. What do you think it points to?
Lou Nowell
Lou Nowell Hace 3 meses
​@RF95 every story is the only story of its kind if you want to be technical about it Myths guided humanity just fine for many thousands of years before your "ultimate, universal truth that everything else points to" was thought up. How do you know that in 100 years, we won't stumble upon a new messiah; the *actually* true story that the story of Jesus Christ points to?
RF95 Hace 3 meses
The story of Jesus Christ is the first resurrection story of its kind, nowhere else does God empty Himself completely, taking on the form of a man, becoming a servant and dying for all of mankind out of love for us. It is the first story to assert itself as the "one true story", show me which of Jesus' "contemporaries" or predecessors ever made such exclusive, ultimate, universal truth claims like, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." Jesus Christ is the mythical reality that all other myths point to.
Sacred Music Tribe
Sacred Music Tribe Hace 5 meses
Eternity is written in the hearts of men
Frost Hace 5 meses
I'm more anti-religious than Christopher Hitchens, but this was a really nice video.
Lance Walker
Lance Walker Hace 3 días
Not sure if it quite possible to more anti-religious than Christopher Hitchens though.
Lance Walker
Lance Walker Hace 3 días
Ironically, the stories of Tolkien are profoundly more useful to an atheist (as I am as well) than I think they could possibly be for a theist.
der deutsche Adler
der deutsche Adler Hace 3 meses
Same as me.
Bernard S
Bernard S Hace 5 meses
Could the producers of youtube video learnedwhen and how to insert background music? I does nt need continuous music played loud overwhelming the narator.
la crema
la crema Hace 7 días
Stfu and listen stop complaining
Peter Jongsma
Peter Jongsma Hace 5 meses
The Bible in the hands of incompetent people is utterly chaotic. Nothing Catholics believe can't be backed up with the Bible. Literally, Allegorically, Prophetically, Artistically,Theologically. eg Confession. Who can deny that Christ gave His Apostles the Holy Spirit and the Authority to forgive sin? It's there in black and white. egThe Saints. Who can deny the Cloud of witnesses? It's there in black and white. I could go on and on and on.... But then I'd be as tiresome and tedious as the militant Evangelicals.
Evan Rivet
Evan Rivet Hace 5 meses
I feel the same about the militant Evangelicals, but nowhere does it say anything about apostolic succession or confession of sins to a priest.
Don Bouchard
Don Bouchard Hace 5 meses
Time for us all to kneel at Jesus' feet, to count ourselves blessed, and to praise God. Thank you for your thoughts.
Daniel Clark
Daniel Clark Hace 6 meses
does anyone know the French agnostic that turned to Christ name??
zaggy3110 Hace 4 meses
emile cailliet sermons.faithlife.com/sermons/107602-emile-cailliet
Daniel Clark
Daniel Clark Hace 6 meses
Monty Ellingsworth
Monty Ellingsworth Hace 6 meses
The music is louder than needed... at times.
Túrin Strongbow
Túrin Strongbow Hace 7 meses
Amazing! Tolkien and Lewis are just absolutely, amazing!
David Jack
David Jack Hace 8 meses
And yet Tim Keller thinks that George MacDonald, who influenced both of them, wasn't even a Christian. Check out this link to Doug Gresham, Lewis's stepson, giving a much more informed view on the man Lewis said was "closer to the spirit of Christ than anyone else he had read"... esvid.net/video/v%C3%ADdeo-2msON_ULYO8.html
zigZagz TwitchTV
zigZagz TwitchTV Hace 8 meses
BLAH BLAH BLAH *god was real, and so was jesus, however they were simple employees of a much larger cosmic company*
Sam Carroll
Sam Carroll Hace 7 meses
cosmic company?
zigZagz TwitchTV
zigZagz TwitchTV Hace 8 meses
Our imaginations have run wild and all thanks to a very long and bad case of the telephone game.
Adam Hovey
Adam Hovey Hace 8 meses
I appreciate the fact, that some people on the internet, actually know that Catholics are Christian. I have yet to read any JRR Tolkien, but I've been reading CS Lewis a lot.
Lance Walker
Lance Walker Hace 3 días
Tolkien is so much better, I understand my bias on this matter, but you absolutely must read Tolkien.
ZoneFighter1 Hace 2 meses
Roman Catholicism is not Christian hasn't been for decades, Some Catholics are Christian but the religion is not. The doctines of Rome are actually antichristian. The Council of Trent makes the Apostle Paul the author of most of the New Testament out to be a heretic when its the popes and cardinals who are the heretics. There may be actual Christians who are Mormons but that doesn't make the Christ of Mormoism the Christ of the Bible, its not. Every cult creates a counterfeit Christ. the ROman Catholic Church is no different.
John Sosa
John Sosa Hace 2 meses
If you like CS Lewis, read G.K. Chesterton!!! G.K.’s book “The Everlasting Man” helped Lewis overcome his atheism.
Lion_Crown_xD Hace 2 meses
@Efren Carino I dont understand why some people think they need to pray to saints. Can you explain it to me? As i understand it, we can pray directly to Jesus, because when he died the veil in the temple was torn in two, which shows that we can come directly to God now, not only the priests. And the saints are "only" human, why should we pray to them? This is not ment to offend anybody. I just try to understand it.
Rod Guff
Rod Guff Hace 8 meses
Can anyone tell me where to find a print of the painting, early in the video, of Tolkien and Lewis strolling on Addison's Walk?
guyver86z Hace 8 meses
How many of you know this in your hearts as true? I could not have done any research or seen any video about this stuff but the words are like you own because when something is true God will let you know in your heart.
eric brufatto
eric brufatto Hace 8 meses
Sebastian Melmoth
Sebastian Melmoth Hace 8 meses
Music too annoying.
WeTube Hace 8 meses
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Stephen Atkins
Stephen Atkins Hace 9 meses
Myth in ways seem truer sometimes. The gospel seems like myth in it's grand nature but it is the truth. It's all in the story teller.
InnerMittenSignal Hace 9 meses
Life was Given to us
I’m so terribly glad I was raised in a Christian household. Christianity was the greatest inheritance I have ever received. Edit: I never realized that was Tim Keller’s voice haha he’s great too.
Kevin Barton
Kevin Barton Hace 9 meses
I just stumbled on a video saying that Tolkien was burning in Hell and the 'The Lord of the Rings' is Satanic. Thank God these people are in a minority of the fanatical fringe. Judge not, lest you too may be judged. They might have missed that one.
Ian Philp
Ian Philp Hace 2 meses
@Dugon man Mormon's made up their religion, got your special underwear on lol Your going to hell mate an yes i am a Protestant (we read the real Bible no the old Joe Smith i found golden books but i lost them but believe me anyway... Pfft stupid America religion......
raygon8 Hace 3 meses
@Dugon manAnd Mormon mythology has no nutty ideas ? give me a brake
Connor Durham
Connor Durham Hace 4 meses
Dugon man you believe you God was a man on another planet...
Dugon man
Dugon man Hace 7 meses
Betting a good $100 that the guy saying that was most likely a protestant. Mormon myself so people will tell me I have no right to talk but protestants tend to have borderline nutty ideas that make it hard for me to listen to them.
Kevin Barton
Kevin Barton Hace 9 meses
@Life was Given to us this was only a short distance from dangerous fundamentalism making assumptions about the spiritual fate of Tolkien and others. Lots of hate.
Jonathan Lewis
Jonathan Lewis Hace 10 meses
notice that every popular fantasy story takes place in a medieval-style world. The Middle Ages era was the most intensely religious period in our history. Our yearning for the medieval world is a sign that we are fed up with the modern world and it's secular atmosphere. People want to live in a world where the mysterious and the spiritual are still important. This why the most poplar fiction is stuff like Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones, etc.
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What about harry potter?
Jax Teller
Jax Teller Hace 2 meses
i just wanna walk around with a sword
Maria Groueva
Maria Groueva Hace 3 meses
Jonathan Lewis
Ionut Chiorean
Ionut Chiorean Hace 3 meses
I would not glorify the Middle Ages. Yes, the majority believed in God, but they were so naive, they lacked insight of the world around them, and that handicap was exploited by clever, yet selfish, evil people, especially from the clergy. I don't think we must blame the rising secularism in the western world. An educated person can be moral and just even if that person is an atheist. An uneducated christian man is as bad as an uneducated atheist one (unfortunately, the majority of the christian dogma is so inflexible that there are so many christian fanatics, and the atheist have none of those). And people have a "God gene", that is the way we evolved, the way our mind works. The ancient idea of God is dead, not the need for comfort, mystery and hope.
Jordan M
Jordan M Hace 4 meses
Very insightful Jonathan. Thanks for sharing.
Matt Allison
Matt Allison Hace 10 meses
Thank you so much
Eve Williams
Eve Williams Hace 10 meses
The story of the friendship between Lewis and Tolkien is is the story of a love that challenged the ethos of a popular culture in which they were to become huge figures. Together, they were bringer of hope. esvid.net/video/v%C3%ADdeo-ioUXIk9Zsu0.html
Zac C
Zac C Hace 11 meses
Music was way too loud
Túrin Strongbow
Túrin Strongbow Hace un año
Aleksi Laine
Aleksi Laine Hace un año
This video is a work of art
Brian Zobell
Brian Zobell Hace un año
Thanks very well done. God lives.
Nathan Prindler
Nathan Prindler Hace un año
This is what Jordan Peterson needs to understand. He knows the power of Christianity in the ethical and mythic sense, but hopefully he will soon believe as C.S. Lewis did that Christianity is “myth become fact.”
Luz Delapaz
Luz Delapaz Hace 13 días
I believe he has had an epiphany. But, for now, he is careful not exposing his redeeming experience with Christ. Why? Well...he is the type of person that needs to be able to explain the mystical union with Christ in human words. He is also in a country that is so far left that it can raise all kinds of problems. When one begins this marriage with Christ, one is so consumed in the love story that you don't discuss the experiences, yet. You want nothing to disrupt the growing relationship, especially when you don't have the words that humans can understand. Then again, as Paul and John state the word is not for everyone because they are children of lies. Also, many can't see as of yet. This is why he gave parables to many in the outskirts I, too, didn't understand. When the spirit finally rescued me (four decades later) everything changed in 24 hours. Part of the change was/is constant prayer (nonstop conversation with God) and an effortless understanding of God's words. He speaks to me through the bible. I can feel a the breath of the spirit. So, I am sure this is Jordan Peterson's case. He has many similarities to the way I teach and process. His mind is too fast and the spiritual experience is overwhelming for fast thinkers. It's one affect after the other non stop. But, the faith is unshakeable. I think he is actually there.
The505Guys Hace un mes
​@Rick Davis Thanks for the link, I appreciate your help regarding this. I've had a look and I agree that the ESV seems the easiest to follow.
Rick Davis
Rick Davis Hace un mes
@The505Guys A good website for reading is www.biblegateway.com. It contains the bible in every translation avaiable but be careful because some of them are cultic. If you can understand old, old English, the King James is the best version. Our cowboy church down in south Texas uses the NLT (New Living Translation). It's a pretty straight forward version of the Bible and easy to understand. My peronal favorite is the ESV, (English Standard Version) which is kind of in between King James and the New Living Translation. Here's a link to John 1 on Bible Gateway. You'll see at the top where you can change translations, etc. This site has no pop-up ads and that's why I like it. www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+1&version=NLT
The505Guys Hace un mes
@Rick Davis Thank you very much, I think that I'll first try reading the Gospel of John like you suggest.
Rick Davis
Rick Davis Hace un mes
@The505Guys There's only one way to find out if God is truly speaking to you? Get down on your knees and ask Jesus to reveal Himself to you but do it with a good heart because He knows our hearts and will know if you are sincere. Tell him that you want to know him and see what happens. When He answers you, ask Him to forgive you and to come into your heart. If you're not ready for that yet, I would pick up a bible with an easy to understand translation like the English Standard Version or the New Living Testament and read the Gospel of John. The entire Gospel is about Jesus' divinity. I pray that God blesses you.
RuthParodies Hace un año
Very nice- Gained some wisdome ;)
jimeas popoloiv
jimeas popoloiv Hace un año
Im an elapsed catholic and kind of atheist this days, but videos like this makes me want to go to church again and pray the rosary. This video is so beautiful, your voice is soothing and the choice of music is perfect. Well done mate!
John Sosa
John Sosa Hace 2 meses
Check out Edward Feser bro. His book “the last superstition “ is a refutation of the “new atheism “ . He’s a Catholic Philosopher. Heavy in medieval Scholastism/Thomism
Julie Benade
Julie Benade Hace 2 meses
Mary us the cause for our salvation.
Donna E Turner
Donna E Turner Hace 3 meses
Pray the Rosary. Love God because He loves you.
Colby White
Colby White Hace 5 meses
@The TyRant So are you saying that Jesus doesn't intercede for us? Jesus loves us enough that, He not only sent Himself, that when he went back up into Heaven, He sent The Holy Spirit for the disciples in order for Him to intercede for Jesus. This is what john piper says on the topic. 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we wait for it with patience. 26 Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. 27 And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. Christianity is the only religion in the world that affirms that there is one, and only one, true God, and that there are three divine persons in the one God: God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit. This is called the doctrine of the Trinity. The church did not come to embrace the doctrine of the Trinity because there is a sentence in the Bible that says: "there is one God existing as three persons equal in divine essence, but distinct in personhood." There is no sentence like that in the Bible. Rather the reason the church has embraced this doctrine is because the Bible unwaveringly speaks of one true God, not three Gods, and yet reveals the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit as God, and as distinct persons. If this perplexes you, keep in mind: We are in no position as creatures to dictate to our Creator what he may or should be like. God is absolute reality. He was there before anything else was, and he did not come into being, but always was. Therefore nobody made him the way he is, and there is no reason he is the way he is. He simply is. That is his name: "I Am Who I Am" (Exodus 3:14). Our role is not to say what can and can't be in God, but to learn who he is and who we are, and to shape our lives according to his reality - his will. We submit to the way he is. He doesn't submit to the way we are or the way we think he should be. One of the places where the third person of the Trinity, the Holy Spirit, is revealed most fully is in Romans 8. We are focusing on his work today in verses 26-27, but it would be good for us to see what has been revealed so far about the work of the person of the Holy Spirit. What emerges in this chapter is that the Spirit is not just some force or power of God the Father, but a person who works along with the Father and in relation to the Father. Here's an overview of what the Spirit does for us. And one of my goals in mentioning these things is that you might love the Spirit. Jesus said that the first and greatest commandment is to love God with all that you are. The Spirit is God. Therefore, you should love the Spirit - as a person. Not as a force or power, but as a person who thinks about you and has emotions for you and works for you - indeed, as we will see in a moment, prays for you. According to verse 2 the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus sets you free from the law of sin and death. According to verse 4 the Spirit helps you fulfill the just requirement of the law. According to verse 6 the Spirit give life and peace. According to verse 11 God will raise you from the dead by the Spirit who dwells in you. According to verse 13 the Spirit helps you put to death the deeds of the body. According to verse 14 the sons of God are led by the Spirit. According to verses 15-16 the Spirit bears witness in us that we are the children of God and so gives us assurance of our salvation. According to verse 23 the Holy Spirit is the foretaste and guarantee of our final redemption. And now in verses 26-27 the Spirit helps us when we don't know how to pray as we should. That's what we want to look at this morning. Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. 27 And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. The word "likewise" at the beginning of verse 26 means that Paul has been giving help to us in what he has been saying and now he wants to give us some more help by explaining that the Spirit himself helps us. The way he has been helping us is by telling us why our sufferings are worth enduring for Christ. All of verses 18-25 give reasons for why we should hold fast to our hope in the midst of futility and decay and groaning and death. Now Paul says, "likewise" - in the same way - the Holy Spirit helps us in our weakness.
The TyRant
The TyRant Hace 6 meses
@The Christian KarateKa Catholics don't pray *to* Mary, or any of the Saints for that matter, we ask them to pray for us, as you would pray for your friend or family. This is supported through scripture as well. We acknowledge that Jesus is the only Mediator, but that doesn't pertain to interceding. In fact, Paul urges us to intercede for others in 1 Tim. 2:1-4 as it pleases God.
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This is so good. The music, of course, is wonderful too, but if there's a way to edit it so that it doesn't drown out what's being said, it might be help. Thank you for sharing though!
ericojon -
ericojon - Hace un mes
@tyghr I stopped listening, The music is intrusive. I'll seek a different reading without it.
tyghr Hace 8 meses
The music is too loud and vocal to easily understand Tim Keller. Beautiful lecture, easy fix (volume balance).
Thiago Da Costa
Thiago Da Costa Hace un año
Thanks for this video
IsaacH1273 Hace un año
this vid itself was a really well done piece of cinema.
Ian Connel
Ian Connel Hace un año
Awesome work!
SoyishK Hace un año
this nostalgia. I cry
Caspian Weiland
Caspian Weiland Hace un año
I respect Tolkien for having his own reasons for believing
belle mcellis
belle mcellis Hace un año
Yes Praise God Jesus is Resurrected. Jesus is King 😇
T'was an old username and I'll change it soon.
You calling him "King" is missing the point.
TM3000 Hace un año
belle mcellis amen to that one. Lord of the Rings is a "myth" version of the truths that are in the Bible... God has a way of reaching everyone, his ways are higher than ours
Kaleb Tackkett
Kaleb Tackkett Hace un año
I absolutely love Tolkien and Lewis. But, I’m a little confused. If Tolkien really was a believer in Jesus Christ, why was he such an ardent catholic? How can a person in dwelt by The Spirit not be convicted to and eventually moved out of a false religion, on the one hand? But then on the other hand, how can a pagan have such a rich and clear understanding and passion of/for Christ?
Leocomander Hace 5 días
Ohh so Catholicism is a false religion. Ok then which one of the 33,000 protestant denominations would then be correct?
Maria Groueva
Maria Groueva Hace 3 meses
Tony Jessup
Maria Groueva
Maria Groueva Hace 3 meses
Tony Jessup
ruth musante
ruth musante Hace 5 meses
maybe you are the one deceived
L Curt
L Curt Hace 6 meses
Kaleb Tackkett sorry you have know concept of Catholicism So sad I will pray God will give you ears to hear and heart to love
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