Movie Mistakes: When does Film Continuity REALLY Matter?

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Film continuity editing errors and movie mistakes happen in big and small films. But do they matter?
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Continuity editing is the process, in film and video creation, of combining more-or-less related shots, or different components cut from a single shot, into a sequence so as to direct the viewer's attention to a pre-existing consistency of story across both time and physical location.
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Thomas Coispel
Thomas Coispel Hace 2 años
Thank you very much ! I worked with so many persons who were obsessed with continuity, as if the only thing they wanted was making a flawless but commonplace story. Without risk there is no chance to make the difference...
Rylan Storm
Rylan Storm Hace 5 meses
@Yogesh S Awate it's full blown amateur hour.
Yogesh S Awate
Yogesh S Awate Hace 7 meses
In the first scene you also missed another thing, trains are different in different scenes
Vardhanam Daga
Vardhanam Daga Hace 11 meses
Couldn't agree more with you. It doesn't matter as long as it doesn't spoil the flow of the movie.
Leonardo Oliveira
Leonardo Oliveira Hace un año
Thomas Coispel Train changes and drink disappears. Right?
Ashutosh Dube
Ashutosh Dube Hace 3 días
What about the glass of cold drink in the toddlers hand(in the start of the video) that was also missing.
Grecia Valerio
Grecia Valerio Hace 5 días
I often notice many (ones like wolf of wall street) as the scene often a conversation, goes back and forth. And I always think "it is probably coz (for example) DiCaprio's dialogue in that angle (or take) was better than the other actor's in that same take and the other actor's dialogue was better in a different take". .. I don't see why some people make a fuss over those things. I just enjoy the scene and try to trust the editor's criteria. Coz after all, once the footage is delivered is not like he's (the editor) gonna fabricate a non existent scene to make it match perfectly.
Grecia Valerio
Grecia Valerio Hace 5 días
Maybe the only take that catches the real emotion of the whole scene was the one he was not wearing that jacket. Is like working with a piece of paper; "you only have 5 meters to work with. Do your best job with that."
Saif Ckret
Saif Ckret Hace 6 días
Two mistakes at first scene. The tram colour. In first scene it's look like colours on the train or kind of advertisements but in the next scene it's seen only grey colour
Cult Mechanicus
Cult Mechanicus Hace 8 días
How could you not notice the jacket
Gradatim Hace 13 días
what's the first movie?
This Guy Edits
This Guy Edits Hace 12 días
The End of Love
jasminetomca t
jasminetomca t Hace 18 días
Continuity matters whether an error is noticed or not, because there is still subliminal communication, and that can affect the viewing experience without the viewer even being aware of it. Continuity in Kubrick's films is a topic all on its own. He was super aware of continuity, and messed with it on purpose at times - there's a fair chance that moment in Full Metal Jacket wasn't an 'error' at all, but who can say? Maybe an intentional subtle break in continuity performs a mind-trick on the audience, sabotages their critical thinking enough so they will accept the illusion on the screen as reality, and get absorbed in the movie
Brian Hickman
Brian Hickman Hace 19 días
The train is different, of course the jacket you mentioned, but also he just crossed the street and is now in the parking lot without even going around all the railing and fence between where he crossed and the lot in the first place.
Dats Mah
Dats Mah Hace un mes
RJ Hace un mes
Also the little ones cup of juice is gone
You missed the train 1st before the jacket
Philipp Haas
Philipp Haas Hace un mes
In the First Scene with the jacket - there are two different trains one white with commerical first and after that a grey train without any commercials.WOW!
LanaDelRadio Hace un mes
Martin Scorsese has the worst edited films I've ever seen. Also, in my experience women make the worst film editors. I don't know why, I think it's because they have no rhythm and they're always using stupid transitions, tints and black and white for no reason. Just because it's an artistic style doesn't mean it's not shit.
adhya K
adhya K Hace un mes
The shutter island scene didn't have the glass on purpose
Marco Aguillón
Marco Aguillón Hace un mes
Great great video. Thank you very much. The other two mistakes: different train, and the paper cup child is holding.
Darragh Hynes
Darragh Hynes Hace un mes
I suppose you can add Ben Affleck's beard (and basically every reshoot) in Justice League
Abdi Hace un mes
Patrick Couture
Patrick Couture Hace un mes
Did you also. Otite that the train at 0:10 sec. If full of ads on the side and at 0:18 there’s no ads on the train? LOL
Selina Kyle
Selina Kyle Hace un mes
Who the fuck cares about small minor inconsistencies? Just enjoy the film. Stop wasting hours upon hours nitpicking tiny mistakes from movies that no one gives a fuck about ok?
ColdWaterThrower Hace un mes
Well-balanced and informative. Surely the best praise.
Mike Haydon
Mike Haydon Hace un mes
I regularly get distracted by continuity errors. It's rather annoying when I'm just trying to enjoy the film
fifthof Hace un mes
Where's the child's drink gone( in that freeze frame about the jacket,) as well ?
S&S films
S&S films Hace un mes
i that same scene you can see the cameraman in big window as well ...
Aditya Mathur
Aditya Mathur Hace un mes
Danny Ambarita
Danny Ambarita Hace un mes
I was stoked about the jacket coz I had my eye on the train ad banners 😅
Thatone Dude
Thatone Dude Hace un mes
People, like me, that are interested in the idea if continuity care. Sadly, most people don't care about continuity. Bad continuity can ruin a decent movie for me.
bassicz Hace un mes
It's Matthew Modine...as in Mo-deen. not Mo -de- ne
FLUKEMEDIA Hace un mes
You're not gonna call out the train with and without advertisements?
Continuity in action sequences can be a big issue if the geography makes no sense. I think there is a breakdown of The Dark Knight's police escort action scene and why it is so visually confusing to watch because there is very little continuity as to where things are happening and who is on what side of the road. Someone can fire a gun on screen-left yet the effects of it will show up on the backside of screen-right. Stuff like this can make watching a movie a much more stressful experience than it needs to be. However, in the scenes you showed continuity isn't that big of an issue. I think audiences can tell on a subconscious level (for instance I noticed the train was a different train due to there being no ads on the side of it, I noticed the time of day changed, and that a parking lot magically appeared in the next shot, as well as I could sense something happened with their clothes) if there is a continuity error but they may not know what it is that happened. Continuity is helpful to make the audience believe what is happening is really happening, but the story and the point of the scene is always what is most important.
George Pierson
George Pierson Hace un mes
If everybody is doing their jobs to the best of their abilities, there should be no continuity problems. In the first clip, where you have two different trains, and assuming that the decision as to what sort of train was to be used, the director should have not changed it to something different, that is his or her fault. With regard to wardrobe, same thing, in the end, it is the director's fault. Now, if it was something minor, like a pin or something like that, that would be a problem with wardrobe not making sure that everything that the actor or actress was to wear was readily available. That is why pictures should be taken before the actor or actress heads out onto the set to make sure that there was continuity. In the scene where the camera person can be seen in the mirror, at least the camera person should have noticed that. In the Pirates of the Caribbean clip, the director should have called out to anybody to move away from the area being filmed. In short, there should be a team in charge of continuity to work with the film crew and actors to make sure that there are no mistakes.
Alvaro del Rio
Alvaro del Rio Hace un mes
The child has a soft drink in his hand before crossing 🙃
Nicolai Brix
Nicolai Brix Hace 2 meses
and not the same train ;)
Michael John Little
Michael John Little Hace 2 meses
What about the light rail tram 00:08 which is passing them from their right, and in the next shot of the light rail tram as it has passed them at 00:16 is it completely different....??
A Viking
A Viking Hace 2 meses
By the time the defect is finally noticed, the customer has already forked over their money for that product. Also some of these errors may be intentional, as to prove a point.
Not Snow
Not Snow Hace 2 meses
WTF You look like lars von triers long lost son
Cloud Tank Creative
Cloud Tank Creative Hace 2 meses
Yes, continuity matters and many people make excuses for not following it. An editor that chooses a performance with a visible error runs the risk of that error distracting from everything around it. It's better to not create continuity errors and it does matter. Luckily, errors may be fixed in post production, but they very often don't care enough to do so.
Chris Ross
Chris Ross Hace 2 meses
Did the plastic cup disappear too? Great channel btw.
Chris Ross
Chris Ross Hace 2 meses
Haha should have waited until the end :-)
Flying High
Flying High Hace 2 meses
It only matters if you notice it and most of the time, people don't. Like you said, you watched it 100 times and didn't notice. I think you could expand your conclusion somewhat to say that people notice movement more than they notice faces, and you could argue that since the face is usually moving, is it the movement or the face they are noticing? I would say movement is higher for recognition because it is tied more to survival. That is, recognizing general movement in your environment has more survival value than just noticing faces. I am not saying people aren't drawn to faces; I'm saying any movement is higher than that. For example, if there is a small fly moving across your screen, you are going to notice that more than any human face on the screen.
MidnightVisions Hace 2 meses
Continuity errors are a failure of the team. Most errors however can be fixed by the VFX deportment. Continuity errors not fixed are either a lack of caring for the project by the team, or a financial decision over story.
Kieran Jones
Kieran Jones Hace 2 meses
He Is also In behind the train lights In the first shot, then In the second he Is In front of It
JUXE Hace 2 meses
I thought it was the fact that he was on the train track and the next second he was in a fucking car park
Andrew Spice
Andrew Spice Hace 2 meses
Also, the kid loses his cup at some point. Someone FAILED at directing this.
Ryan Luse
Ryan Luse Hace 2 meses
Erasing the camera man in the window reflection would take an hour or less in after effects.
MrHonwe Hace 2 meses
Let's not forget that the Shutter Island example has the patient 'drinking' with her right hand but putting the 'glass' down with her left.
mahchymk93 Hace 2 meses
You notice continuity in two situations; if the movie is so boring that you're looking around for anything to entertain you. Or if you absolutely loved every second of the movie that you're rewatching it a 100 times and know every scene by heart.
mahchymk93 Hace 2 meses
I noticed the plastic cup in the baby's hand disappearing...
Swithin Games
Swithin Games Hace 2 meses
its also a completly different train
aha..yeh the train
Jan Prochazka
Jan Prochazka Hace 2 meses
just for first video here is also different train
Martin Langstrumpf
Martin Langstrumpf Hace 2 meses
dude in the video: "did you noticed the mistake?" me: "yeah sure. these are two different trains one is silver the other is white with some stickers on it" dude: "in that one frame he wears a jacket in the other he doesn't" me: "..."
Jeremy Barlow
Jeremy Barlow Hace 3 meses
I actually thought the continuity error may have been intentional to allow the audience to experience the same WTF moment the character was having.
MarCuseusFX Hace 3 meses
A lot of these "errors" can be easily fixed in post.... yet they don't get fixed.
Brandon McDuff
Brandon McDuff Hace 3 meses
I just thought the slushi was gone
dj1298rotik Hace 3 meses
I'm the only one who thought the error was the speed of walking?
Media Buster
Media Buster Hace 3 meses
Of course, continuity matters. It doesn't go away because you don't notice it the first time or are unaware of it. In fact, it probably takes away from the fluidity of the movie. And like others have pointed out a reflection of a crew member is not a continuity issue. It's like saying because some people don't notice mistakes you shouldn't worry about them.
Allen P
Allen P Hace 3 meses
Noticed the jacket AND the child's drink.
Melissa Tracy
Melissa Tracy Hace 3 meses
Great info!! So important! Thanks for doing these videos! So incredibly helpful. Btw..The train was also two different trains!😂😂😂
fuzzy Gear
fuzzy Gear Hace 3 meses
The boy lost his smoothie!!
BREADCRUMBS Hace 3 meses
They have the best justifications for their mistakes
esmifrado Hace 3 meses
Humans dont look to human faces at movies for some odd "random" "scientific" reason, they look because that is where the action lies, and where the action comes from. If the guy is Bruce Lee we tend to look at his moves not at his face. Its just a matter of where the relevant action lies.
Bharath Kumar
Bharath Kumar Hace 3 meses
Dear sir please suggest mE a book to become professional editor anD tell me when we should put music in the scene &When we shouldn't
elibigman bigman
elibigman bigman Hace 3 meses
unless you are a fil maker, videographer director or any one else who works with film otherwise it won’t be easy to notice those litle mistakes
Rohan Biker
Rohan Biker Hace 3 meses
What are the movies u edited?
Sachin Bansal
Sachin Bansal Hace 3 meses
the essence of the scene is more important than continuity, unless the lack of it, is evident easily to a non-qualified viewer.
Eddy Briones
Eddy Briones Hace 3 meses
I used to think that continuity "errors" were all caused because editors didn't notice them, but this video helped me realize that it's because of the shot that was already taken having an emotional impact. I used to hate continuity errors because it seemed like something unprofessional to me. Thanks to this video, I've realized through the poll you made that it's not as bothersome as i made it out to be. It would be a cool idea to use this for a movie idea!
ISMAIL OMAR Hace 3 meses
I think of CONTINUITY as a tool, just like the mind misremembers past events. We are but flawed creatures.
NikiWin Hace 3 meses
2:12 your voice cuts off 😎
FC WHAT Hace 3 meses
Very interesting video and confirms what I have subconsciously have been doing without really thinking about it. Totally agree it’s about getting the scene to work.
Only Anonymous
Only Anonymous Hace 3 meses
What's the name of the first movie?
Alec Hänninen
Alec Hänninen Hace 3 meses
I notice quite easily mistakes. Example fake snow (soap powder etc) is easy to notice. Items are replaced wrongly etc. I did notice at once that jacket. My visual memory has been tested and I got really good results. I work time to time with art and paintings. My skill helps me lot. I have also found lost, small items like rings and keys (lost in the nature) even I was just a kid. My parents thought that I was odd by good way. :) What a pity I am too old to find a job in movie industry. My skill has also helped me in Archaeology. Thanks for video. I gives useful information and hints for viewers.
ArrowTheWolf Hace 3 meses
I thought it had to do with the 180 rule or something,
CircumCrippled TV
CircumCrippled TV Hace 4 meses
Who can find the continuity error in the three-minute film “Changes” by BibisBeautyPalace on ESvid?
Tung Ming
Tung Ming Hace 4 meses
The jacket wasn't the only continuity mistake in the first scene.
Life thing Are happing
Why see all theses problems when the movie is so entertaining
varun Vijay
varun Vijay Hace 4 meses
Did anyone notice about the metro/train that passes?
MinRin Kim
MinRin Kim Hace 4 meses
Everyone says "i saw the train " when i'm over here THE JACKET
lohit raj
lohit raj Hace 4 meses
There are 2 kinds of editors in this world : 1 who work with directors Martin Scorsese Steven Spielberg and Stanley Kubrick 2 who make youtube videos criticize others work n make nonsense
blumproducciones Hace 4 meses
I have seen carefully the "Full metal Jacket" clip and there is no continuity error. In the first shot we see the sargent approaching his left hand to the Soldier`s estomach but in the next shot we discover that the sargeant stops and open his left hand fist before touchin the soldier´s estomach at the same time he punches with his right hand. We did not see that coming!. The Soldier did not see that coming!
hang kikuta
hang kikuta Hace 4 meses
Does anyone know what film it is in 2:27
Bearded Bjorn
Bearded Bjorn Hace 4 meses
Didn’t even notice the jacket error. I thought it was the trains. The first train was plastered with advertisements, the second one wasn’t.
Justine-Paula Robilliard
The scene of the dad carrying his son down the stairs and in the mirror/window is the camera is not continuity error, it is lazy grading, a very different topic, you did not change scene/take, it was continuous and if you had, and there is the right tools, right in Final Cut, to mask out the mistake, or you could drop the scene into Resolve and in less than an hour job a goodin...but no, you hide behind "continuity" which by the way is not the task of the script supervisor, it should be done a unrelated person, a 3rd crew member, and it is not all that hard to do...Now in digital production, with iphones, a screengrab of each scene and a log kept.... If the director is lazy and refuses to hire a continuity supervisor, what is the editor to do? Stand in the corner, drop his/her undercrackers and produce 3 helicopters??? Nope...sometimes it is just dumb luck, the best example of "oh shit we goofed.." James Blond driving a car between 2 buildings...1st time you see the car from, the back it is on it's left hand side, right wheel off the ground, cut to the reverse, left down, right up...a total goof...but in the course of the movie, you hardly notice it...unless you are looking for it... Today 99% of errors can be graded out, we have the skills, the technology, to change almost everything in the scene...and actually from reading the comments on this video, most greater than 90% did not notice the jacket...or no to jacket, to no jacket... Focus on the pennies you loose sight of the dollars...
Welcome to My Brain
Welcome to My Brain Hace 4 meses
the kid was also holding a drink and then it disappeared.
Keziah Okosodo
Keziah Okosodo Hace 4 meses
Fabian Tomaschek
Fabian Tomaschek Hace 4 meses
By the way, the color of the train changes too. When it leaves the tunnel, it is white. When it passes, it is silver.
付和雷同 Hace 4 meses
I'm neither filmmaker nor editor but as a fan of movies I interested in filmmaking stuff. I usually don't care about continuity error and mostly don't notice them. In my personal opinion other audience (my friends for example) doesn't really care about them too. They also doesn't care about plot-holes and unfulfilled foreshadowings. If it is a good movie, audience doesn't care about an error because they pay attention to what happening rather than what they're watching. Only people who cares about them is filmmakers and watch-mojo.
Solomon Gorringe
Solomon Gorringe Hace 4 meses
train is different
MrKockabilly Hace 4 meses
Let it be said that continuity errors in films DOES NOT affect the USEFULNESS of the product/film. BUT it does reflect on the COMPETENCY of the people (attention: script supervisors) tasked to prevent those. It's like one wrong note in an orchestral performance, a typo or a wrong grammar in a novel, a failed pixel in a high resolution camera. No big deal, and no one would notice, but even if someone did, the more lofty aspects would prevail. But again it shows that someone is a little negligent on his role.
cumquatrct3 Hace 4 meses
Small mistakes don't matter, like an occasional reflection of a camera operator. Major mistakes do, because as soon as people notice on mistake, they're more likely to go looking for others, or other problems with the film. If the sound quality changes noticeably, or background notice appears and disappears, then people stop treating the film with respect.
kserpak.luxoft Hace 4 meses
Why nobody cares about the title that was shown from the very beginning?!) I watched it once and I liked it, but the title just jumped out of my head... Someone, please give me a hint! (I did a PrintScreen of the actor in an aim to find a movie title via google images search but failed)
kserpak.luxoft Hace 4 meses
@This Guy Edits, I forgot to mention that your channel is a treasure, thanks a lot, very interesting)
kserpak.luxoft Hace 4 meses
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This Guy Edits Hace 4 meses
end of love
dawfydd Hace 4 meses
In cases the power of the film can carry any mistakes, but the lesser films become the more bloated and full of references and stupidity they become the most these mistakes get pointed out and frowned upon. Three cherry picked examples, we asked 3 scientists their opinion on controversial topics it was our mistake though we didn't find three that agreed within the time window! luckily this guy did! - but a point it does not make its an appeal to authority. These "face" points are correct when dealing with shots with human beings as the focus, but get quite lost when for example all three stormtroopers are wearing a helmet and one of those helmets the top of their heads hits a door. - Boy that's distracting! Not only that with newer superhero films we are rewarded with paying attention to little details.. so eyes are searching for any noticeable thing now it is a massive change in behavior i expect if you eye track marvel fans for example or Star wars/Trek you'd find their eyes much more all over the place with focus still on faces.. but we are moving away from that just as film evolves our behaviors also do. I disagree with you completely the landscape is changing, in a world full of reboots using movies that aren't based in the rebooted universe but using the title to boost sales, this stuff matters now more than ever.
dawfydd Hace 4 meses
Yes, it is important when the film SERIES is held to a high standard, the more plot holes and mistakes made by massive multi-billion dollar companies within huge series worth more than some countries is very important because it was quite possible for them to get it right in the first place. The thing defenders of "small mistakes" seem to forget is these movies are million/billion dollar productions it is reasonable to expect a certain amount of professionalism otherwise what is the difference between the latest Star Trek Film and the Star Trek Fan Film Axanar. Limitations put onto the fan film by CBS, funding, professionalism plot writing is all well on point above and beyond a studio with billions of dollars to burn on coffee, so why would a loyal fan put up with a lesser product that costs more to produce? Nobody should, hence the numbers for certain films getting reduced more and more, as CGI becomes easier to work with the more fantastic artists will produce better content for a fraction of the cost hollywood uses, and people will seek entertainment elsewhere.
dawfydd Hace 4 meses
and yes in cases the power of the film can carry any mistakes, but the lesser films become the more bloated and full of references and stupidity they become the most these mistakes get pointed out and frowned upon. Three cherry picked examples, we asked 3 scientists their opinion on controversial topics it was our mistake though we didn't find three that agreed within the time window! luckily this guy did! - but a point it does not make its an appeal to authority. These "face" points are correct when dealing with shots with human beings as the focus, but get quite lost when for example all three stormtroopers are wearing a helmet and one of those helmets the top of their heads hits a door. - Boy that's distracting! Not only that with newer superhero films we are rewarded with paying attention to little details.. so eyes are searching for any noticeable thing now it is a massive change in behavior i expect if you eye track marvel fans for example or Star wars/Trek you'd find their eyes much more all over the place with focus still on faces.. but we are moving away from that just as film evolves our behaviors also do. I disagree with you completely the landscape is changing, in a world full of reboots using movies that aren't based in the rebooted universe but using the title to boost sales, this stuff matters now more than ever.
Jpof Gwynedd
Jpof Gwynedd Hace 4 meses
Whoa. I thought you were talking about the different trams in that opening sequence
andrearusky Hace 4 meses
That 3rd shot of the train is also pretty obvious continuity mistake, but the reflection of the cameraman is just a blooper/goof, which by the way, could have been easily fixed in post by masking/rotoscoping
Niklas Olsson
Niklas Olsson Hace 4 meses
They’re not full of it. What Murch, Hunter and Schoonmaker says is absolutely true. Any professional editor knows this. People in general know little or nothing about what editing is all about.
Rebooted Hace 4 meses
I noticed the train only because I didn't think there'd be two mistakes lmao
willie freeman
willie freeman Hace 4 meses
There are two types of people in the world, details people and big picture people
calicops951 Hace 4 meses
The missing glass shot was on purpose. It is foreshadowing that Leonardo is going to suffer with the same hallucinations when you find out he is a patient too.
Doctor Manhattan
Doctor Manhattan Hace 5 meses
Avengers: Infinity War. Enough said. Smh.
Simion Alexandru
Simion Alexandru Hace 5 meses
3:52 what is that movie ? I have to research that scene a little bit... for..sience purposes !
Simion Alexandru
Simion Alexandru Hace 4 meses
Thanks man ! :)
This Guy Edits
This Guy Edits Hace 5 meses
apocalypse now
HappyRadio Hace 5 meses
I think that these kinds of errors are like typos in a book. Sure, it is a mistake, but it doesn't ruin the overall story and as long as you understand what the author meant it's not doing any harm.
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