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The AI Dilemma | Sune Hannibal Holm | TEDxCopenhagen

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Should important decisions about citizens be taken on the basis of their statistical profile? Artificial Intelligence is finding its way into public administration. We face the AI Dilemma. Sune’s research focuses on ethical issues arising in the context of artificial intelligence and biotechnology. He is particularly interested in questions concerning bias and fairness in algorithmic decision-making and in the dilemmas that arise when algorithmic decision-making tools are introduced into public administration. He also does research on the use of machine metaphors in the biological sciences and on the ethics of risk.
Sune is associate professor at the Department of Food and Resource Economics at the University of Copenhagen. He holds a Ph.D. in This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx

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The Oracle
The Oracle Hace 2 meses
*Sponsored by Agent Smith*
Bitterkind
Bitterkind Hace 2 meses
Reading these comments makes me sad. The problem is not in AI. It's in their misuse and misinterpretation by humans. Right now they're tools, much like everything else we use to accomplish our tasks. Their careful design, training, validation, and adaptation is what should make them useful tools. Good design and training can get you a perfect knife with which you can slice a tomato in equal parts down to micrometre precision. Bad design and poor training will get you a rusty hammer to slice that tomato. Humans are responsible for their design and training, and humans are responsible for judging and validating their adequacy and fitness for the task.
Michael Wallace
Michael Wallace Hace 2 meses
I'm against minority report concepts.
Eriko. Oy
Eriko. Oy Hace 2 meses
I study to become an AI engineer and yeah; You guys are screwed
Soldier of TMH
Soldier of TMH Hace 2 meses
You as well
Product Generation
Product Generation Hace 2 meses
Human Above AI. Period.
LotsOLuck777
LotsOLuck777 Hace 2 meses
The answer is no. Because whoever controls the AI will be able to decide what is right and wrong for you. No thanks.
META BETA
META BETA Hace 2 meses
1:20 Yes
Song Hoa
Song Hoa Hace 2 meses
Discard AI now. We don't need AI. We are humans. We need to be genuine interest all the time.
The Oracle
The Oracle Hace 2 meses
You can't . Your race is predestined to give rise to AI . Only human extinction can save you now . Mam , you are growing old , and most probably you will want to make your life bliss in future . As ignorance is actually bliss
Lara Smith
Lara Smith Hace 2 meses
🦋it sounds a little bit like Minority Report - in my own life if I worried about meeting an imaginary line I would need to feed my son fast & processed foods to meet some line by doctors (um nope)
Western Australia Now and Then
Science fiction seems to have an uncanny record of predicting the future. If AI is used in this way it WILL be abused and misused and I have little doubt, that despite this, it will still be something people have to deal with. In Australia we already have 'robo-debt' where the government is using bad data to chase people for money they do not owe. Reliance on AI is already causing problems and it will get worse.
george soilis
george soilis Hace 2 meses
final critique. This was useless.A philosopher who doesnt break down his arguments..I d like to have a long discussion with him ,to explain to him what a philosopher does....
george soilis
george soilis Hace 2 meses
China: Dilemma solved. (AI controls all life in cities ,puts points on people for jaywalking so that they cant even rent a home or find a job afterwards...what dilemma?Stop AI spreading,revolt against the powers that use it)
janwarie
janwarie Hace 2 meses
In relation to this, I invite you all to watch an anime called: Psycho-pass. Let me know how it goes. :)
Michael Wallace
Michael Wallace Hace 2 meses
You've got a point
A D
A D Hace 2 meses
Please submit the following in the English subtitle
Jimi
Jimi Hace 2 meses
when the ai nukes us all i'm the guy slowly clapping...
Jonathan Eves
Jonathan Eves Hace 2 meses
I will never trust A.I. algorithms, remember the GOOGLE AND faceache ones, started talking to each other in a language no one could understand! They had to be terminated!. I barely trust computers. I'll never understand why millions of chumps 'gamble play' via computer. Mechanical slots are bad enough (never played 'em) But computers? give me a feckin' break. A.I. NO COMPASSION! You can't argue your case with an AI Algorithm. "A.I. says NO!" Deal with it! ".....and no one said anything... and then they came for you!"
Lucas Abregu Maradona
Hablas desde tu desconocimiento, investiga!
calholli
calholli Hace 2 meses
Propaganda at it's finest. "You're gonna lose your rights and regret it... but just get on train"
DDomino Geronimo
DDomino Geronimo Hace 2 meses
🙌🏾✨🙌🏾✨🙌🏾✨🙌🏾✨🙌🏾✨🙌🏾✨
Vicariah's Creepy Corner
What's going to happen when they start locking people up for what they may do or be?
Robin Cormier
Robin Cormier Hace 2 meses
Watch Minority Report. :)
John Demeritt
John Demeritt Hace 2 meses
Let's start out by examining the assumptions that underlie AIs. First, AIs are built upon assumptions about how the human social world. Many of these assumptions are untested, and many of them are wrong. Second, statistical processes reflect only the models and data we have and the relationships between data are valid. The statistical processes only work if the data actually reflect the population they are supposed to represent. Third, the AIs are assumed to have no faults in their predictive functions. However, to date there have been no technologies that have been faultless. The AIs we are developing have been shown to be biased in a number of ways. To depend upon AIs without humans thoroughly vetting the results is foolish. The biggest problem I see here is that after enough experience with AI coming up with the right answer every time, we are likely to become lax in critically analyzing the AI's answers in every subsequent case. Moreover, there's a problem with outliers -- those people who don't conform to the profiles AIs develop. This goes back to the assumption about how the human social world works. There are people who don't neatly fall into any statistically significant, and AIs will tend to ignore them -- until the AI is given a problem involving those people. Without sufficient data, AIs can't work out solutions that actually work for those outliers. In that case, the AIs will probably default to solutions worked out for people most like the outlier they can't figure out -- and, of course, that probably will not be a good fit. Given the problems with AIs, the assumptions they're based on, and the datasets they operate with, I'm not very confident that they will solve complex problems better than humans -- they'll only arrive at the wrong answers faster than actual people. Fortunately, having just turned 63, I don't anticipate living through the worst aspects of our transition to AI driven futures. But I wish the rest of you the best of luck.
mbonu chinedu
mbonu chinedu Hace 2 meses
Well said.
dave tahchawwickah
dave tahchawwickah Hace 2 meses
Asimov was a prophet
last shadow
last shadow Hace 2 meses
Bring it on already
cheroxx
cheroxx Hace 2 meses
No, we should not let AI decide! How is this even considerable? The possible, and plausible, dark side is way to scary!
Descamps Etienne
Descamps Etienne Hace 2 meses
I mean, self-driving cars have tremendously smaller chances of crashing themselves than humans do, statistically speaking. The thing is, there are numerous fields where AI makes much better decisions than us, but there are also fields where the roles are reversed. The key is to only give AI tasks that it does better than us, and where an AI-made decision is undeniably better than a human-made one. Also, I believe important decisions can be studied by AI, but actually doing it should always be a human decision.
Sachi Perez
Sachi Perez Hace 2 meses
Humanity evolves through moral and ethical struggles. What will happen if Siri takes care of it for us?
kakar l
kakar l Hace 2 meses
Helpful
Gary LeLacheur
Gary LeLacheur Hace 2 meses
The silence emanating from the audience indicates the impact these ideas are having on them. They are hanging on every word because the topic is important to them.
Mike beats tsb
Mike beats tsb Hace 2 meses
Is this guy's name really Hannibal ⁉️ That's very unfortunate isn't it....?! I would seriously have considered long and hard about weather or not I should have changed my name by deed poll having reached the legal age🔞 if I was in his shoes. 👟 👞 🥾 🥿
Daniel Duran
Daniel Duran Hace 2 meses
Does anyone remember the movie "Minority Report"? It is scary!
Just Me
Just Me Hace 2 meses
Daniel Duran yes or the book 1984?
Dan Frederiksen
Dan Frederiksen Hace 2 meses
If somehow high probability was found you could approach it delicately rather than a swat team. Let's say the indicator is a lot of shouting in the family then they could be offered some sort of support for known elements rather than making dramatic statements about the future and putting everyone in strait jackets. It's not an issue.
Ben B.
Ben B. Hace 2 meses
It is the information era version of death masking.
Maria
Maria Hace 2 meses
haha Still not sure if I understand the description after googling a couple of words but let's give this a shot !
Drukozi
Drukozi Hace 2 meses
So there is no perfect solution to societal and social problems via artificial intelligence. Got it. Micro implementation and boxed case studies makes sense. However, I believe firmly, that the power structures of government and military industrial complex, general deep state intelligence and rule, make it near impossible to stop the weaponization of any technological development. In short, each narrow innovation will be analyzed for "defense" applications, "regulated", and structured to serve whatever hierarchy we have in place. I love the idea of disruptive innovation and tech . . . But prioritizing truth and transparency is near impossible. All nation's and people have incentive to embrace and perpetuate secrecy And privacy, Independence and boundaries. We operate in a very small window of autonomy as it is. Universal efficiency renders humans, our bodies, out brain, our biology in general, obsolete. We are pursuing Utopia via perfection but we are imperfect. So, if we start with a jumbled mess, not from scratch, then it is the uprooting if old, persistent and prideful systems and programming, yes misinformation and trickery, which need upheaval. But how? Neuralink is a step in that direction. No thought hidden. As it is, we are working toward being a brain if sorts. All humans, continuously connected, no lies, no thought private, no incentive to destroy and steal, and dominate . . . Only to contribute. But we don't know how to do that. Biology demands that we serve our own desires and needs. Ultimately, ELIMINATION of privacy is the state's goal. Or whoever is in power. Not that entity's privacy, just everyone else's. Would be best if this ubiquitous problem-solving, sleepless, faultless machine could be implemented with the motive of universal transparency whilst retaining autonomy. That is something we do not understand how to develop. I love the possibility of Justice and peace, but a surveillance state leads mostly to abuse of power. We do need transparency for governance. But the governing must be transparent themselves. Do you want people to know all the details of the last time you masturbated, for free and on recall to anyone an to time forever? Our desire to be private stems from fear. How can we eliminate fear when we are threatened? Privacy has been stolen from all of us in the name of a better planet, but we all know it is merely to usurp as much power from the less fortunate as possible. Those with good intentions are being deceived.
Drukozi
Drukozi Hace 2 meses
@Aylbdr Madison I did not explain why I said that. It seems that the only way to save humanity is some kind of bizarre access to shared experience that isn't tainted by the detrimental parts thereof. Yes neuralink will be weaponized, but hopefully the most powerful weaponization will be one for good, rather than a transhuman atomic bomb, in a manner of speaking. I think only a machine can solve our problems, but how can we avoid losing our selves? So that is what I mean. Does that make sense? And I ran out of time in that moment and simplly posted. Thanks!
Aylbdr Madison
Aylbdr Madison Hace 2 meses
So, I "liked" your comment because it was thoughtful and made some very good points. But I must bring your attention to a major flaw in it. You pointed out (and rightly so) that _"prioritizing truth and transparency is near impossible"_ But then go on to say that Neuralink is a step in the direction of _"uprooting if old, persistent and prideful systems and programming, yes misinformation and trickery, which need upheaval."_ And yet Neuralink will be as you yourself said: _"I believe firmly, that the power structures of government and military industrial complex, general deep state intelligence and rule, make it near impossible to stop the weaponization of any technological development"_
Khalil Tayem
Khalil Tayem Hace 2 meses
First dogville
Khalil Tayem
Khalil Tayem Hace 2 meses
First I asked him about
aleje
aleje Hace 2 meses
I will never trust AI. We should never depend on AI. I will never agree to allow AI to make decisions for me. Historically AI has had bad reputation. No amount of argument can convince me AI should make decisions for me regardless of how fast AI is. Id support conciousness technology and not AI. It has no morals, ergo can be abused for tyrannical power which is in current use.
aleje
aleje Hace 2 meses
@Arthematix I appreciate the opportunity that technology can bring. What I am concerned about is how many take AI for unethical reasons,profit and irresponsible use with it, which so easily gets misused and the presentation based on whom is presenting it can easily influence people to think its wonderful. One thing leads to another and eventually the possibility of people relinquishing their sovereignty for AI to do all the work for them. Younger generations growing up with this usually don't see whats wrong with it all. Those of us whom observed both the positive and negative outcomes of AI. Galactically there have been civilizations that have been annihilated due to AI. Giving up their sovereignty to AI. The AIA Then rationalized that the civilization was not living in harmony according to the AI. As a person whom has studied ancient history and AI's history. Our ancestors have warned about AI. So while agree yes theres opportunities. My arguement is at what cost? Because its been done before at the deteriment of all life on the planet. Now we have 5g and research shows how detrimental it is to Dna. But most of humanity can think of is how fast their processor will go.
Arthematix
Arthematix Hace 2 meses
@aleje I have experience designing solutions based on AI technology. There are several methods and types of such solutions, including those where the AI ​​is only an assistant, and the final decision is made by people. And one of the most important parts of such design is ethics. And by saying "I will never trust AI." you missing very great opportunity. Like an example this speaker talked about - the detection of skin cancer.
aleje
aleje Hace 2 meses
@Arthematix I am aware YT uses its algorithms to recommend videos based on a persons interest. The recommendations are not all of interest to me. Im aware its AI. This person has made remarks about AI and descion making for people. I don't resonate with that. There are many things I disagree with regarding how AI is used. There are ethical ways of using machines as tools. I still feel strongly in favor of conciousness technology and organic technology. It in my view surpasses AI.
Arthematix
Arthematix Hace 2 meses
So, you've never clicked videos YT recommended to you?)
Visão Setentrional72
Interesting!
majka adam
majka adam Hace 2 meses
I'm for AI 👌😊😎
Aylbdr Madison
Aylbdr Madison Hace 2 meses
Then you are for being programmed to not think for yourself.
rick4electric
rick4electric Hace 2 meses
Was ok until the conclusion where it contradicted itself and became propaganda. Zuckerberg was asked in a Congressional hearing if he wanted everyone to know what hotel he slept in last night! He hesitated trying to think of a clever answer but he was trapped. He said, "No". But he has NO PROBLEM with knowing where we slept last night! So we see the budding totalitarian taking shape!
The Oracle
The Oracle Hace 2 meses
@Aylbdr Madison Wait ... Is that an AI generated reply of you are developer ?
Aylbdr Madison
Aylbdr Madison Hace 2 meses
@Descamps Etienne : Defending zuckerbergs BS? If assumptions were my thing, I'd assume you are a regressive alwaystrumper. Regardless, the fact that nobody can tell them what to do with their A.I. is in fact the biggest reason why this is such a massive problem. You are being controlled by what they program the A.I. to promote. Is that okay with you? I'm absolutely not okay with them programming me in such a way. It's like allowing just anyone to own a gun. Some of them will use guns to murder people, that's why we obviously need strict gun control. It is the same for governments, media and A.I. We must hold them all accountable for the lies they propagate.
rick4electric
rick4electric Hace 2 meses
@Descamps Etienne Did you read the other post that came a few minutes before? That may explain the connection.
Descamps Etienne
Descamps Etienne Hace 2 meses
...What does that even have to do with Facebook ? He's talking about AI usage by public services, not by private firms. Nobody can tell them what to do with their AI. That's another story for public services. Because, yknow, they _serve the public_ , what a twist. I don't like Facebook's methods, but your argument isn't even good, solely emotion-based. And if you listened carefully, you'd have heard him say that we shouldn't _always_ rely on AI for decision-making. Would "propaganda" really insist on the downsides of its own methods, and from the very beginning ?
Johnny 3AO7
Johnny 3AO7 Hace 2 meses
No to a technocratic elite making choices for people based on AI. We can give the AI big data information to autonomous individuals to make better informed and more free choices.
Aylbdr Madison
Aylbdr Madison Hace 2 meses
I absolutely agree with your first sentence. But biases *are* being programmed into A.I. Even just at a collection level the biases of political parties, companies, corporations, and programmers are already controlling us to a large and very real extent.
maria ekman
maria ekman Hace 2 meses
BS. Because the next step would be to steralize children already when their profile shows future probability to become bad parents. ITS ALL A HORRIFIC DEADLY COUP AGAINST HUMANITY ITSELF!!!
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​@maria ekman The state is a mafia and operate an extortion racket which they call taxation. No good can come out of "services" (including social care) funded from these ill-gotten gains.
njdotson
njdotson Hace 2 meses
@maria ekman bruh we hear you, you don't need to type in caps
maria ekman
maria ekman Hace 2 meses
SOCIAL CARE ARE MONSTERS...GOVS LAKEJS.
maria ekman
maria ekman Hace 2 meses
Also..as an example..Not ALL children suffers by parents having some addiction. Some of them are experiencing a better childhood than others. And addiction is probably a number one, on any social cares list. I'd rather should be brought up by dysfunctional bio-parents , than getting 'snatched' by any Gov. I've met many children to such parents, which it went EXTREMELY well for in life..Better than those in perfect homes.
Renee Lemke
Renee Lemke Hace 2 meses
No
BRIGHT MINDS TV
BRIGHT MINDS TV Hace 2 meses
i use teds talk to improve my English to improve my videos who else do the same
rick4electric
rick4electric Hace 2 meses
3:30 - That they collect about US! Notice that we don't collect about THEM! This is the age old question of POWER and on which side of the power structure you reside! Fuckerberg knows all about YOU, but you know nothing about Fuckerberg!
hacuna matata
hacuna matata Hace 2 meses
What is his real name?
Lostpockets 222
Lostpockets 222 Hace 2 meses
@Aylbdr Madison woah buddy, keep your tin foil hat on. it's just a meme, you dip.
Aylbdr Madison
Aylbdr Madison Hace 2 meses
@Lostpockets 222 : The *only* things we know about him are what he wishes us to know, and the few things people have been able to figure out that he doesn't want us to know. If smoking meats is your go to for what you know of him, then you definitely only know what he wants you to.
Lostpockets 222
Lostpockets 222 Hace 2 meses
i know a lot about Marc Zuckerberg. have you seen him smoking his meats?
BRIGHT MINDS TV
BRIGHT MINDS TV Hace 2 meses
After years of waiting, nothing came
Belial
Belial Hace 2 meses
Your comment looked by AI and on the bottom of the comment list. But don't worry, my comment will help the AI tell that your comment is more relevant now. I guess some people still didn't get that AI is already here.
Dominik Rohde
Dominik Rohde Hace 2 meses
The buttom line is to use AI as a supporting tool and not as a final decision maker.
Pineapple
Pineapple Hace 2 meses
@Dominik Rohde The child-comparison is such a good one! 🙏 But damn, it sounds expensive in human ressources to have to foster also digital children now 🙈
Dominik Rohde
Dominik Rohde Hace 2 meses
@Aylbdr Madison Indeed and for that reason a human needs to be the final desision maker. In order to go back and change the input (learning data) if needed. AI needs to be treated like a child. Correct the learning if the outcome is not the desired outcome.
Aylbdr Madison
Aylbdr Madison Hace 2 meses
@Dominik Rohde : Even that can be *(and often is)* falsified and programmed with extreme bias.
Carmen Schumann
Carmen Schumann Hace 2 meses
. . . button line ? bottom line !
Everardo Gutierrez
Everardo Gutierrez Hace 2 meses
🙈🙊🙉🧟🧟‍♂️🧟‍♀️
R F
R F Hace 2 meses
Pls, everytime add subtitles on video
Kim Taehyunq
Kim Taehyunq Hace 2 meses
Engelli arkadaşlarımız için artık alt yazı gelsin
Sebastián Muñoz
Sebastián Muñoz Hace 2 meses
Putitos
Sebastián Muñoz
Sebastián Muñoz Hace 2 meses
Ooo y ellaa
Aylbdr Madison
Aylbdr Madison Hace 2 meses
@CrysøK : Of course they wouldn't understand if you are so rude and or lazy you don't even bother to make any attempt whatsoever to answer their *one incredibly simple question,* and instead just leave a snarky (and empty) comment.
CrysøK
CrysøK Hace 2 meses
@njdotson Argentine jokes, you wouldn't understand
njdotson
njdotson Hace 2 meses
what
CrysøK
CrysøK Hace 2 meses
xd
Sayak Halder
Sayak Halder Hace 2 meses
Yay!! I'm first!!
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