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The FD RX-7 is everything you want in a sports car, including failure | Cammisa Revelations | Ep. 17

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The 3rd-gen Mazda RX-7 has it all: beauty, performance, a Le Mans tie-in, and a sales failure. Like so many other legends, it's everything we want in a sports car. Which made it a hard sell in its time.

The FD RX-7 was developed at the same time, by the same man, as the 4-rotor 787B that won the 24 Hours of Le Mans.

It was a lightweight, fast, focused sports car that walloped its competition on the road and on track, thanks to a sequential twin-turbocharged rotary engine and a obsessive lightweighting.

But it might have gone too far. The 13B-REW engine is fragile and finicky, and the chassis was one last-second reinforcement away from being too light to be structurally sound.

Then again, what sports car doesn't suffer from a few problems? At least the RX-7 had incredible performance and looks to kill. It was designed to be a classic, with forms that would make it one day appear on the lawn at the Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance. Given how well it's aging, there's little doubt the most beautiful sports car to come out of Japan in decades will one day appear on the lawn.

Which is also a shame, because where this RX-7 really shines is on the road.

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vtec kickedin
vtec kickedin Hace 8 meses
Timeless design. Could release it today minus the pop ups and a few design refreshments and no one would question it
Ashley Richard Moldskred
87% of people question the porshe design that never change over the years .
Curi0u50ne
Curi0u50ne Hace 26 días
Moss 90s cars from Nippon
sovannv
sovannv Hace 27 días
I would buy one now new
rotormeeeeeeee
rotormeeeeeeee Hace 6 meses
The RX7 is almost 30 years old and still looks beautiful today. It will always be a classic.
Dougie Quick
Dougie Quick Hace un mes
40+ but who's counting
Nick T.
Nick T. Hace un mes
Most 30 year old cars look much nicer than today’s designs. But I agree it’s a gorgeous design.
Aaron
Aaron Hace 5 meses
Man, this takes me back. I owned, daily drove, and repaired a 1st and 3rd gen Rx7s. Rebuilt the 13b engine a few times, built a single turbo setup, mapped a haltech ecu, etc.
touristguy87
touristguy87 Hace 11 horas
...man if I had a dollar for every time I rebuilt a 13b engine.
Ranjit Singh
Ranjit Singh Hace un mes
I can make a ball out of paper and throw it on the floor…take that Mr I rebuild car engines
Roger Fox
Roger Fox Hace un mes
@Skid falcoon IIRC fb 1981
Skid falcoon
Skid falcoon Hace un mes
@Roger Fox the SC22a or fb?
Roger Fox
Roger Fox Hace un mes
Owned an 1981 ist gen
Machine Spirit Miami
IMO one of the most beautiful sports car to ever come out of Japan. Its just timelessly beautiful and perfectly proportioned. It hurt a little anytime i would see one that had distasteful mods n bodykits back in the day
LoveMyZJ
LoveMyZJ Hace 7 meses
These episodes are must-watch automotive content for any enthusiast. I love the integration of the period-correct video footage from the manufacturer, advertising and of course, Motorweek. Easily one of the best-looking cars ever made.
アマ
アマ Hace 5 meses
Without the driving bits it would only be informative though, now IDK about you but I don't want to learn that much about a 30k+ car that has a list of issues longer than my CV unless I also get to see it drive.
Harman Khinda
Harman Khinda Hace 8 meses
Everytime one of these comes out now I am just elated in anticipation of how good its gonna be. Please keep em comming Jason and Hagerty.
Yellow S2000
Yellow S2000 Hace un mes
" The Cosmo was the only Mazda available SOLELY with a rotary, until it'd spiritual successor the RX-7." The RX-2, RX-3 and RX-4 (one of which I owned) would like to disagree.
Harman Khinda
Harman Khinda Hace 6 meses
@John Nemesh there's plenty of applications ICE will stay relative from enthusiasts wanting a visceral expierence to cold weather long distance applications. I do believe though eventually everything will be electric but we gotta while till then
bikephil
bikephil Hace 6 meses
@John Nemesh ok dork. I'll never give up my v8 Chevys.
John Nemesh
John Nemesh Hace 6 meses
Obsolete. I don't care HOW "advanced" you think it is...if it burns gas or diesel, it's old tech.
bikephil
bikephil Hace 7 meses
Nah, he is way too annoying.
claudio marangone
claudio marangone Hace 6 meses
Never ceases to amaze me how beautiful this car looks in person compared to how it shows in pics or on the screen. It’s proportions, lines, size… Over time it will be more appreciated for what it is. Kudos for Mazda’s mindset and making it happen.
Rob Harrison
Rob Harrison Hace 7 meses
The look of the car is one of sheer beauty. I think the Spirit R is the most beautiful car ever made.
Dirty Dovi
Dirty Dovi Hace 5 meses
Growing up, I had a few friends with 1st/2nd gen RX7s, and when most of the motors popped, the guys would do V8 swaps into them.. NOT the case for my buddy J's 3rd gen RX7. That can was an Absolute Beast! We did everything we could to add/free-up the ponies, and when we maxed out on all of that, We took a trip to visit Dave & Kim at KD-Rotary in PA. They're RX7 Mad Scientists for sure! DYNO tuning is what we went for.. What we got was So Much More.. An 'emergency drop off' was called in, and all appointments slowed down.. We got to see one of the US's most popular "Import Tuner" - as it came on on a flatbed.. All I remember is that it was a black RX8 3rd gen, Insane HP and Insane stereo system to boot. With time ticking, Dave and Kim ordered a party-pack, and we all got to hang out and enjoy.. Pizza & wings have never been so much fun.. Our little party also consisted of a full-tour, [I remember a handful of NISMO Nissan tuner cars there also - Dropped off to be dyno-tuned] we got to see all of the RX7s in different states of build, repair, tuning, etc. There where prototype builds, and Three-Rotor Setups!
xXYannuschXx
xXYannuschXx Hace 6 meses
The technology behind high performance cars has trickled down so much, that even hot hatches can toast 10-20 year old super cars nowadays, while also being affordable and reliable. But sadly cars like the RX7, NSX or other similar sports cars have practically disappeared from the market; I had always hoped we would see a "poor mans" NSX or RX7 in the future. I know we should be glad, that we still got the GR86, Nissan Z and Yaris GR, but knowing what could have been is still sad.
Fullboost
Fullboost Hace 8 meses
Love the video guys, lve been in so many of these cars they are timeless. 👍
1Hellcatt
1Hellcatt Hace 7 meses
@scareyaf 👌
scareyaf
scareyaf Hace 7 meses
@1Hellcatt Aha its ya boi, fullboost.
1Hellcatt
1Hellcatt Hace 8 meses
Aye look who it is 👍
Forrest Jenkins
Forrest Jenkins Hace 8 meses
One of the prettiest modern cars made. I loved it from day one.
Steve McCloskey
Steve McCloskey Hace un mes
I remember back in the late 90s one of the US magazines for Japanese cars had a long term FD project. The article about replacing all of the vacuum lines fascinated me. And made me realize buying one to daily would have been a horrible decision. So I bought something slightly more reliable - a talon tsi. Yep. I blew up that motor. Lol
Nick O
Nick O Hace un mes
My buddy got a 95 TSi (fwd) when he turned 16. Man, looking back that car was a rocket ship to us at that young age. Had lots of fun in that car.
Gerald Williams
Gerald Williams Hace 5 meses
Thanks. I owned seven Mazda rotary cars including all three generations of RX-7. Raced a few modified ones too. Wish I still had my FD today. One FD just sold At Barrett-Jackson Auction for over $50,000 USD. I still have my 2008 40th Anniversary Edition RX8, modified and going strong. But I do miss my red 1993 FD. It felt like I was wearing it , so fun to drive and blow away other sports cars of the time. Cheers
Black_n54
Black_n54 Hace 7 meses
One of the best car series on ESvid. Keep them coming Jason!
Deetroiter
Deetroiter Hace 7 meses
30 years old and still looks amazing. Still one of the best looking cars ever made.
Brendan McAleer
Brendan McAleer Hace 8 meses
It's worth noting that Kobayakawa was one of the "47 Ronin" who figured out how to get that first Cosmo's 10A to work. Also, the powertrain engineer on the FD became program head for the ND MX-5, which is why it's so good. And last, if you get your NA Miata restored through Mazda's factory resto program, some of the techs are ex-pit crew from the 787B Le Mans effort. Such a cool, tight-knit company.
G1 Sunstreaker
G1 Sunstreaker Hace un mes
Very much so! That's some amazing trivia. I love my '14 6i GT deeply; just wish they'd kept made 6cyl versions.
ricky v
ricky v Hace 7 meses
@Brendan McAleer WoW 🤩! Talk about being deep in the business. Congratulations 🎈🎊🍾🎉
Brendan McAleer
Brendan McAleer Hace 7 meses
@ricky v I've talked to all these guys over the years.
ricky v
ricky v Hace 7 meses
Wow! This is some good information about the company. Where was this learned?
cesar
cesar Hace 7 meses
Imagine getting your car worked on by ex pit crew guys who worked on the 787? Thats like getting medicine for a cold from God himself
Dagaz FPV
Dagaz FPV Hace un mes
i remember being 17 ish when i first saw a FD, i was blown away at how unique it looked. They are an amazingly beautiful car. I'm hoping to see you do a Z32 video in the near future. Cheers!
18WinsAgain
18WinsAgain Hace 4 meses
I love to hear that engine breathing in fuel and air in order to exhaust all horsepower possible. Sounds like turbo heaven
Not_Brundle
Not_Brundle Hace 7 meses
I M-I-S-S the last iteration of Mazda's RX-7 SOOO much, such a beautiful piece of automotive engineering just disappeared. It's initial Model was a firecracker too! The Porsche clone disappointed me in terms of aesthetics though. The 3rd gen RX-7 is a legendary collectors model today.
Eric Min
Eric Min Hace 7 meses
Blows my mind how content like this comes free. Keep it up Jason and Hagerty.
Valentin
Valentin Hace 21 un día
@EG LyricalTV and i pay for youtube :(:
EG LyricalTV
EG LyricalTV Hace 21 un día
umm youtube pays
guyforlogos
guyforlogos Hace 8 meses
The sound that car makes on the ending drive is just pure symphonic melody.
koopatroopa187
koopatroopa187 Hace 14 días
@Alan Mac Yeah. It definitely did not have its wastegate recirculated back into the exhaust.
Alan Mac
Alan Mac Hace un mes
Sounded like it's fitted with a screamer pipe
Taylor C
Taylor C Hace 7 meses
It doesn't sound great with the turbo jankiness. It would have been amazing with a 4 rotor.
OriginalFake
OriginalFake Hace 7 meses
@Carl he said annoying not loud.
Carl
Carl Hace 7 meses
@enks . ngl loud engines sound annoying to me. Like it sounds good but wouldn't you get annoyed of it a bit later on?
Alex Dimen
Alex Dimen Hace 5 meses
Awesome video with some new info for this rotary fan and mechanic. Makes me want to go out and drive my FD. Mostly accurate with one common misconception that stands out: you can absolutely use synthetic oil in a rotary.
mrKozmoz
mrKozmoz Hace 7 meses
It's 2021, and I still remember first time seeing an FD when I was 9 years old back in FL. I can say without a shadow of a doubt, they hit the future classic mark for sure.
turboheadcrab666
turboheadcrab666 Hace 6 meses
This is my first time watching this channel, and this host feels so real and relatable. I appreciate you guys making this video!
Black Conservative Patriot
I am missing my RX-7 right now. Great job Jason and team Hagerty.
Ken Merriman
Ken Merriman Hace 8 meses
I believe that the FD RX-7 is just about one of the most beautiful cars ever made... but you’re right, maintenance and upkeep is a nightmare.
Fuck Google And You
Fuck Google And You Hace 7 meses
Shizzz I’ll change that apex seal any day over all those rings rods valves ect ect
andola jackson
andola jackson Hace 7 meses
yep, Looking at FB's i shudder at the thought of a port+polish, runners, and having to run a cat in california while knowing damn well the most expensive aspect of that build will be the same length headers and the stand alone. It pushes me into a renesis swap OFF top with stock ecu bc of cost efficacy. VS loud brap dominion. Like out of the box 9000 wider rpm band and a stock ONLY config. Or something that i might be able to sell if i dont blow it XD. Its either that or trying to add power to a stock VG30det z31which basically needs the cooling of a turbo build way past 4-450hp, and is just going to push me into forged internals....which is what pushed me into throwing 10gs at an FB instead. I mean buying an auto FB+5spd+lsd and renesis seems do-able. I find trying to add power to a z31/vg30 becomes a money pit/rabbit hole for more power/better pistons thus better fuel application/ecu etc a quest to be the baddest z31 in the lot/meet where as the rotary is just BAD in its own right and and ported NA chop or bridge ported 12A chop is just End game. Hell i was looking at VR30 swaps for the z31 but the lack of harness/ecu support has me on the fence for a couple years as the z35 gets some run with the aftermarket Providers. RX-7 for me is like that meme "so you mean to tell me to make 200 HP NA on my FB, i gotta buy a stand alone+fab work in the 10,000$ range+tuning " kid.
Zed Rahman
Zed Rahman Hace 7 meses
Thankyou Jason and Hagerty for these excellent videos. Technically brilliant, highly informative, witty with a smattering of Jason's famous sound FX... what more do you want?!
Dudley Fuddpucker
Dudley Fuddpucker Hace 19 días
This was my favorite Mazda and I seriously looked into buying one, but alas, two friends who had purchased this generation confirmed what Jason was saying: it was a basket of non-stop issues, spending more time in the shop than on the road. Never did make the leap because of that...
Nicholas Del Bosco
Nicholas Del Bosco Hace 7 meses
Please never stop making these videos! They are fun and interesting and so well-produced! I always am so excited when then new videos drop.
Peter Andrews
Peter Andrews Hace 5 meses
They sold well here in Australia. I remember the 1st time I drove the FD, balance, stability and handles. It was the only car I ever raced at hillclimbs where I didn't have to LEARN the car. It did everything the right way. Unlike the mid engine MGTF I race now, when it is not at the repairers. If you want to experience snap oversteer, try the mid engine MGF/TF.
Bolt
Bolt Hace 8 meses
Fantastic car. And to the point of it being a Japanese car with a German engine design designed and America. This is the kind of car we get when the world comes together to make a great sports car.
V3NOMOUS DYALISIS207
when the world comes together? germans and japanese i must say because wakandans have never done anything to positively contribute to human kind
basshead
basshead Hace 7 meses
That's why the Corvette C5 looks so similar to it.
Watah Willy
Watah Willy Hace 8 meses
Lol nah
Joseph Stokes
Joseph Stokes Hace 5 meses
Congratulations for presenting this video so well. My son and I have had several RX-7's and enjoyed them a great deal and delighted in their being so unique and performing so well. Best of luck!
Joe’s Junk Garage
One of the most beautiful automobiles produced! I’ve always appreciated what Mazda brought to the table. I wish they would start producing more affordable, performance platforms for the U.S. market.
r l
r l Hace 19 días
Mazda still does, goto a track day and you’ll see ND Miata’s ripping around the track
Dr Joey
Dr Joey Hace un mes
Awesome car. Most free revving thing I ever drove, and really I think it was the most sophisticated, exotic sportscar ever mass-produced.
Roberto
Roberto Hace 5 meses
You are an excellent presenter and the production of the Mazda RX-7 was very well done and great narration. Your delivery is factual, entertaining and funny. Really well done! I wish you could expand the subject matter and host other great topics such as science, and contemporary events. Really well done!
HO1HUM
HO1HUM Hace 8 meses
Had the R1 in back in '93, pretty accurate review. One thing never mentioned is the cool "Top Gun" locking on target beeping that you'd get when approaching redline. Almost poetic and definitely fitting/appropriate in that car. The reason was unlike piston engines, the 13B would actually smooth out and get quieter approaching redline, so drivers needed a heads up to shift and not just keep on trucking. Just an amazing car for its time and price point.
Jedon Thompson
Jedon Thompson Hace 5 meses
@Elle Fields I had 2 91 R1's, the seats were suede like cloth. Had good grip so you didn't slide around on them during high G maneuvers. They also had a 2nd oil cooler and a few other miner upgrades. I wired the turbos wastegates together so they were non-sequential, way smoother power.
CUBuffs4Life
CUBuffs4Life Hace 5 meses
I came so close to buying a yellow R1 back in '93 but I was only a couple years out of college and the wiser choice was to put a downpayment on some property. I'm glad I bough real estate and I did get a MR-2 turbo instead but those FDs are so beautiful.
Elle Fields
Elle Fields Hace 7 meses
@Danny Galdamez can’t say I ever remember seeing one with suede but then again there weee few of them on the road. I bought mine brand new and it was the only one at the dealerships that wasn’t pre-sold, well technically it was but the guy backed out. I don’t know about you but I regret selling it.
Danny Galdamez
Danny Galdamez Hace 7 meses
@Elle Fields the r1/r2 were the ones that came with suede seats and the base models got cloth seats
Elle Fields
Elle Fields Hace 7 meses
Remind me, the R1 package was the one with high bolstered cloth seats right? I had the touring package, leather seats Bose stereo all that good stuff. Though I replaced the twin turbos with a single larger turbo and HKS blow off valve. Miss all my RX’s, I’ve owned 3 plus a rotary powered Triumph spitfire.
Phil Harnett
Phil Harnett Hace 3 meses
I'm a huge fan of the whole Mazda rotary series of vehicles. I drove my friend's R100 a number of times. This tiny car with that engine.... scary as hell, but totally fun and worth the fear.
Winston Lee
Winston Lee Hace un mes
Love these Camissa Revelations...happened to come across one when looking for GR86 info and now hooked!
The algorithm
The algorithm Hace 5 meses
I loved my RX7. Drove it all the time. I had quite a few fun, fast cars on Grand Turismo 3. My "real" car was a Dodge Ram which wasn't nearly as much fun.
Behzod Hasanov
Behzod Hasanov Hace 7 meses
Let alone the FD RX-7 thing, the whole video production is another level -so creative, elegant visual aids and computer graphics. Huge respect to this team. This video deserves tens of millions of reviews at least.
Tutto Macario
Tutto Macario Hace 7 meses
I tip my hat to you Cammisa for THE BEST video summary on this sports car I’ve ever seen. As a previous owner, I was fortunate enough to experience that drive (and the related headaches 😖). I truly enjoyed every minute of it. Just listening to the “pops and crackles” of that engine at the end of your video brought those goosebumps back. Isn’t that what a true sports car should do? I thank you for reminding me of that!
Salar
Salar Hace 5 meses
I remember seeing a beige RX-7 in a parking lot back in 1998, I was just an 8 year old kid and didn't really understand cars but I remember how it caught my eye and walking up to it to see what the inside looks like. That's how alluring this car is, it grabs the attention of every generation.
Salman Ranjha
Salman Ranjha Hace 15 días
This is the second video I am watching from Hagerty and am already in love with the content and especially the presentation!! Appreciate this channel
Robert Walker
Robert Walker Hace 5 meses
Thank you @Hagerty this was an incredible video. I still miss my FD3 Type-R1 absolutely beautiful a true Love/Hate relationship of a car just the way it should be.
Mladen Karadzic
Mladen Karadzic Hace 8 meses
Revelations content is on whole another level. Thank you guys.
Power Accountability League
@JasonCammisa You seem to have a fair helping of common sense ... do you think me wrong when I say that quality is on the endangered-species list?
JasonCammisa
JasonCammisa Hace 7 meses
@Power Accountability League I don't think you can scrub anything from the Net - at least I haven't. Also haven't tried. I think most people just think "so old it doesn't matter." :P Also, I'm from a part of the world where your ethnic background is an important differentiator, used in casual conversation.
Power Accountability League
@JasonCammisa I'm impressed you've been able to scrub that from the net. BTW, why Italian-american rather than just American?
BCA
BCA Hace 8 meses
Needs his own channel. Easier to find.
JasonCammisa
JasonCammisa Hace 8 meses
@Power Accountability League Why do you ask?
EJ
EJ Hace 7 meses
Jason you are absolutely the perfect person to host these videos. So informative and funny at the same time with so much ease
JIGA BACHI
JIGA BACHI Hace 7 meses
Well done, Jason and the behind the scene team ! 👌🙂👍
Skywatchers Virginia
I see clearly where my C5’s design really came from. I’ve had two RX-7’s and never put it together till I saw the FDRX-7.
Andrew Bruckbauer
Andrew Bruckbauer Hace 7 meses
I own an Rx8. I love the motor. I hope eventually it can make a comeback.
Horst Tristan von Wittenbach
This RX-7 generation just looks damn modern and desirable even 25 years later, it's bonkers... 🤤👍🏻
Enigmalex
Enigmalex Hace un mes
@Horst Tristan von Wittenbach Tigra is my first car and I have it for 7 years. It has almost 260 000km and it's still going strong. You can find it used for around 1000 euros in my country :)
Horst Tristan von Wittenbach
@Enigmalex Man, I agree. It looked damn nice in' 94 and not too bad in '22... 😁👍🏻 I remember begging my mum to get one back then, but it was too impractical... 😢
Enigmalex
Enigmalex Hace un mes
Just like my Tigra A 😂
Miss MoneyPenny
Miss MoneyPenny Hace un mes
I had three rx7. Loved em.
David Macdonald
David Macdonald Hace un mes
@lucas rem Nope, again the MX-5 was inspired by the British roadsters of the post-war period, particularly the Lotus Elan. Nothing to do with Italy.
Will Will
Will Will Hace 7 meses
When this car was in production, I wanted one so badly. It wasn't the performance that was the draw. It was beautiful. What stopped me was my 38" inseam. This wasn't a car for tall people.
Desertguy
Desertguy Hace un mes
I had forgotten how gorgeous this car truly is; wish it were available now, with all the bugs worked out.
DazedDamien
DazedDamien Hace 3 meses
Years later, this is still my dream car. Hope I get to own one some day
Darryl Sjodin
Darryl Sjodin Hace 9 días
It’s body design was before it’s time and still looks incredible! Park it next to an 03 Corvette Z06 and they look a lot alike!
capnthepeafarmer
capnthepeafarmer Hace 8 meses
The RX-7 is an amazing car, and the rotary engine is such a racing oriented motor. I drive my second gen RX-7 on the track and it just eats it up. Yes, there are problems with the cars, but a lot of it is solved by regular maintenance. Which I think is something most of these cars have been lacking and get a bad rap for. Because so many of them were neglected for decades and young people get their hands on these "sports cars" they break quickly because they weren't maintained, and the stigma continues. Having owned multiple RX-7s over the decades, regular maintenance has allowed them all to last well over 150K miles. Also, not modifying it like a buffoon has also helped them stay reliable.
BluSpectre
BluSpectre Hace 6 meses
Misinformation kills so much about these cars and their rep. Like telling people that Synthetic oil eats up apex seals. IDK where that myth started, but it's rampant. I too believed it for a bit, since I heard so much of it. Then I read some documents from Racing Beat and Mazda's race teams, about how they only used Royal Purple full synthetic. Why doesn't Mazda recommend synthetic oils for the road going rotaries? Because "We haven't fully tested how synthetic oil affects our rotary engine designs." BTW Every dealership will use semi-synthetic 5W-20 oil in your RXs.
sadmatt5332
sadmatt5332 Hace 7 meses
@SenatorPhoenix run a rotary 3k miles redlining on a track, take any gm and do the same, your 4 banger will be falling apart and the rotary will run like it was just milled from factory
lnlsun
lnlsun Hace 7 meses
@MilesPrower1992 Follow Rob Dahm's channel for rotary do's and don'ts.
Ashante Dula
Ashante Dula Hace 7 meses
That last sentence goes for any car.
MilesPrower1992
MilesPrower1992 Hace 7 meses
@SenatorPhoenix "I can't maintain a car so I'm gonna hate on other people for it!"
Christopher Miller
Christopher Miller Hace 4 meses
These were really some of the coolest cars ever. My highschool converted on into an electric racecar. Crazy fast acceleration. I also met a guy in town who sooped his up and claimed he hit 285 mph on the Bonneville flats.
David Peters
David Peters Hace 5 meses
Terrific video, great car. Retromod with new electric turbos would be nice. The UK conversion Elford RX-7 inspired the FD Mk3.
Pedro Edwardo
Pedro Edwardo Hace 6 meses
My son had one that I was "allowed" to drive occasionally. What a rocket for it's time. Crazy fun to drive!
ImmortalInflames
ImmortalInflames Hace 5 meses
I really love these videos, celebrating all manner of cars.. pointing at their flaws softly sure, but really just appreciating them! I'm certainly no fan of Mazda & though I do respect the rotary, It's not an engine I'd ever daily use.. but this didn't take away from the real enjoyment this video game me!
Captain Coffee Cake
Captain Coffee Cake Hace 8 meses
I was lucky enough to drive one of these, despite all the hype... they are still UNDER rated, unbelievably fun to drive. it was basically if you gave a miata a 8ball
Michael Dorrence
Michael Dorrence Hace 7 meses
LMAO!!!
Charles Hines
Charles Hines Hace 7 meses
That is just it, just because one person hates a car it doesn't mean you will.
Eric C
Eric C Hace 7 meses
I had an FC but not a turbo model. It was a GXL which was still a blast to drive. I learned to drive manual on that car. It's easy to stall a 1.3L haha good times tho
AlDim000
AlDim000 Hace 7 meses
@dgalcaide You know that being overpriced and underrated are completely different things, right?
Dave G
Dave G Hace 7 meses
Haha. Much more fun comparison than steroids.
Jason McAllister
Jason McAllister Hace 22 días
This was an amazing video. Production quality top shelf. Honest, interesting, and through.
Princess Peach
Princess Peach Hace 6 meses
Damn that was informative, entertaining and well put together. Class A stuff.
Michael Chase
Michael Chase Hace un mes
The 2nd gen and 3rd gen will always be my two favorite cars.
The Stress Theory of Hans Selye
Thanks for the fun video. Reminds me of long ago when I still had testosterone, sports cars were fun, women were fun, and I had no fear of death. Now I hate mechanics, prefer safety, and am all in for Tesla.
Tomas Andrews
Tomas Andrews Hace 8 meses
I remember seeing an FD at my local motorshow when it was released, it looked gorgeous, absolutely stunning and it hasn't aged one day since!
buhketz
buhketz Hace 6 meses
@DumbledoreMcCracken aite buddy, just gonna leave you in delusionville
DumbledoreMcCracken
DumbledoreMcCracken Hace 6 meses
@buhketz It has everything. If you were alive (a tteen at least) when the 2G Eagle Talon was introduced, it would mean you have the perspective to understand that the new NSX is a step backward in styling. Styling always repeats themes, as the newest Prius Prime a recapitulation of the 1959 Chevrolet Impala, and the BMW 135i takes the biscuit-tin body line from the NSU Prinz. Some themes are worth repeating, and others should have never been born. The new NSX should never have been born, styling wise. The Eagle Talon did that already, and it wasn't great at the time, and it should never be repeated.
buhketz
buhketz Hace 6 meses
@DumbledoreMcCracken not sure what my age has to do with the fact that there’s no resemblance there.
DumbledoreMcCracken
DumbledoreMcCracken Hace 6 meses
@buhketz how old are you?
Don Marek
Don Marek Hace 5 meses
I love my RX8. Had it over 15 years. Still going strong.
Joe Gac
Joe Gac Hace un mes
Every time I see one of these I can't believe how brazen GM was with the styling on the C5 Corvette.
Camilo Romero
Camilo Romero Hace 6 meses
Wow… that last bit took me back to when I had my FD driving through the hills of Napa making a beeline to Lake Berryessa in the early 00’s! ❤️
Jim Pekarek
Jim Pekarek Hace 4 meses
Still one of the most beautiful cars ever made. Hell, I think it's prettier than a Jaguar E-Type, and right up there with the Toyota 2000GT.
Geoff Smoland
Geoff Smoland Hace 6 meses
Drove a 94' from 1997-2001 and put over 50k miles on it. Built it into an amazing auto-x and track day car. I have had well over 30 sports cars since, and the FD was still my favorite by a mile.
Jess Stuart
Jess Stuart Hace un mes
Using a rotary engine allows for a low center of gravity which greatly improves cornering ability.
yamilams
yamilams Hace 4 meses
I've enjoyed every minute of this video... greatly done!
Ahmad Faisal
Ahmad Faisal Hace 6 meses
The design of FD3S RX7 is so beautiful and timeless. I guess Mazda can sell this car today without changing any of its body design.
ScoutingForZen
ScoutingForZen Hace 8 meses
Instant click and like. The FD still looks amazing, and I hope someone puts a Crighton rotary in one
speedjunkie13
speedjunkie13 Hace 7 meses
@TJ Roelsma what you're talking about is why I chose a turbo that spools quickly. I used to chase dyno numbers, but what's the point? There's always someone that will have higher numbers and be faster, so make the car fun. A near instant spool that pulls all the way to redline is a blast to drive. The only reason I don't care to drive it just to work is because I like fun drives on curvy roads that last several hours at least. I'll drive it to work occasionally, but it's kinda pointless to me most of the time because I want more time with it on fun roads rather than sitting in stop and go traffic. BORING
speedjunkie13
speedjunkie13 Hace 7 meses
@TJ Roelsma oh OK, so you've never driven one and don't even know why they stopped coming to America lol. That's all you had to say. Limited power band? Lol the stock turbos start pulling around 1800, and being small, they don't have much lag to speak of. My larger single turbo starts pulling about 2200 and pulls all the way to redline at 8200. That's a limited power band? I guess if you're comparing them to streetbikes. Obviously not all single turbos spool this fast, some don't reach boost until the 4ks, but that's still at least another 4k of pull until redline. There's also the type of performance you're looking for, for whatever type of racing you're possibly doing. I like road course or autocross so I don't care as much about high hp or top speed, and that's what these cars were designed for. Some people like them for high hp and top speed, sure. And there are probably better suited cars for that, but that's what they want. You don't need a lot of torque for a car that weighs significantly less than those with torquey V8s. Especially if you're into road course or autox. On paper, yes of course they have less torque, but saying they're gutless (turbo models anyway) is asinine. The other car companies gave up because of fuel economy, and that you're right about. And probably partly because they didn't feel like investing the time and money into fixing the apex seal issue leaving chatter marks on the housings. Mazda ended the run in 95 because of low sales in the US and because of the change to OBDII.
TJ Roelsma
TJ Roelsma Hace 7 meses
@speedjunkie13 The turbo models may be somewhat more responsive, but as long as there is no or not much turbo pressure, it's basically an NA. As soon as the turbo kicks in then it becomes a wholly different car, but that's about the same as saying "the NA is perfectly drivable as long as you keep the revs high by slipping the clutch until you've reached some speed." Inherently those rotary engines do not make a lot of torque and have therefore never really been successful, partly due to the problems with the rotor seals, partly because their pretty limited power band and partly because of their inherent thirst. There are more disadvantages in my opinion than there are advantages, which is why pretty much everyone except Mazda pretty soon left it behind and focused on other, more promising concepts.
speedjunkie13
speedjunkie13 Hace 7 meses
@TJ Roelsma maybe the NA models, but turbo models are anything but gutless. Have you driven one? I was pretty happy with the stock twins, but I got tired of the intermittent problems reaching 10psi and the complexity of the sequential turbo system so I went single turbo. Now I'm on an EFR 8374 and it's a monster, I absolutely love it. It still spools very fast and pulls hard all the way to redline. I haven't driven an NA rotary yet but my buddy says his vert is gutless so I'm guessing that's what you're talking about lol.
TJ Roelsma
TJ Roelsma Hace 7 meses
@Skyline Fever They may have had 250 and later 280 HP, but it's almost all top-end power. When you try to drive these cars normally, they're pretty much "gutless bastards" and only come to life when the rev-counter reaches a certain point. That's okay when you buy this car as a second, fun or track car, but as a daily driver I can't imagine it being much fun.
TSi99999
TSi99999 Hace 3 meses
Wow great video and memories. Had an all new ,04 RX-8. Never did find the handling limits of it. It STILL had the cold start flooding ussue in 2004
Mr. Llama
Mr. Llama Hace un mes
I love to FD so much but I still happen to prefer the awesome technology and the Porsche mannerisms of the FC. But the FC Savannah was very Mazda with how it behaved and screamed to 7500 rpm with two turbos wooshing away which is why it ranks as one of my favorite cars
Potassium Stick
Potassium Stick Hace 6 meses
The whine of the engine is just pure bliss, it sounds how you would expect and electric car to sound like
eric angleton
eric angleton Hace 5 meses
I think it's awesome you can very noticeably hear the turbos in the end sequence.
Chad Williams
Chad Williams Hace 7 meses
The last 2 minutes of driving footage and sound brings back so many great memories and exhilaration of driving my ‘93 FD. Although it spent more time in the shop than I ever anticipated, it was certainly a blast to drive.
aes53
aes53 Hace un mes
I had a 93 as well, and I reached a point where the cost to keep it on the road was just too prohibitive. It was so much fun to drive but was also treacherous in the rain. Nothing like watching the ass end beat you around a curve.
Luke Sm
Luke Sm Hace un mes
Great video.Brought back many good memories.I never owned one but the first generation rx7 came out when i was 18 yrs old and man was it sexy. You forgot to mention anorher fun fact which also sealed its fate and that is they are absolute gas hogs.
Gordon Kachuk
Gordon Kachuk Hace un mes
I love your shows, particularly your style of presentation with your silly sense of humour. Also I admire your automotive knowledge. It is because of this that I would like to offer a little info you haven't mentioned. Before the Cosmo there was the 2 door coupe, the R100 which was later replaced by the RX2 or 3, I forget. The R100 I remember extremely well because 3 were entered in the 1967 24 hr. of Franchorchamps, which I attended. During qualifying they were using mufflers that extended beyond the rear bumper as it turned out to reduce the exhaust noiseI level. At race day they were removed and the beautiful high pitch sound was truly deafening. They performed quite well and were very quick, however none made it to the finish and sadly one driver lost his life when he went off at Masta, one of the very high speed right handers at the back of the circuit.
WJ Handy Dad
WJ Handy Dad Hace un mes
that was wonderful to watch... as it started I was thinking I want one of those cars right now! And by the end I was glad I don't have one.
Edward Mitchell
Edward Mitchell Hace un mes
The car seems like a lot of fun but I have one proving question for you Hagerty, "Is it as fun as a Scirocco?"
das ツ
das ツ Hace 8 meses
It's utterly amazing how well the design has aged
Charles Hines
Charles Hines Hace 7 meses
What I like is that it isn't ugly. Some Japanese cars are just hideous and the only reason people buy them is they last a long time. Toyotas (Corollas especially) for example are just ugly but they last a long time.
joedmac78
joedmac78 Hace un mes
I had one of these back in the 90s. I still think about it. Wish I still had it. One of the few cars that you really looked forward to driving
Joe Causey
Joe Causey Hace 5 meses
I owned a 1993 RX-7 and I loved it! I've wished a thousand times I still had it!
Chris Dooley
Chris Dooley Hace 7 meses
All it’s quirky engine stuff aside I absolutely adore these FDs
Import R GTBOY
Import R GTBOY Hace 7 meses
I own a spirit r and love just sitting in it. You are one with this car. I may not drive it but I do love its feel. These cars are the best drivers cars from that ERA. Still today manufacturers are trying to make a model of car that is timeless like this one
orbitaljunkie
orbitaljunkie Hace 7 meses
Could never afford one of these, and when I could I didn't have the patience to deal with its quirks, but I did hop on the Miata train for a 6 year ownership of an NC. The manual transmission is literally perfect. Mazda makes some brilliant cars.
D C
D C Hace 5 meses
@Cluelessbeekeeping never had a problem with the engine. daily driver for 3 years
Matt Malenda
Matt Malenda Hace 6 meses
@Cluelessbeekeeping What do you mean? The BP series in the NA and NB miatas was pretty strong!
Cluelessbeekeeping
Cluelessbeekeeping Hace 7 meses
*When they're running...*If they're running (NB owner)
Steven Gulie
Steven Gulie Hace 6 meses
I loved my Rx-7. The twin turbo was sweet, even though it did look a Porsche-y. Never saw an Rx-7b, only The Rx-8-pretty as a sculpture, but… too expensive for me.
William Walseth
William Walseth Hace 4 meses
Loved my 93 Black RX7, amazing to drive. Crappy interior, and had to have the engine re-built. Emission testing in Ontario was the nail in the coffin for me, and boy could it suck gas. Still, I have great memories of that car, and always will.
Brian Sutherland
Brian Sutherland Hace 6 meses
I had one. Bought used. No car was ever more beautiful. Immense fun until the apex seals failed at 65K miles. Still love it. Still miss it!
Lil' Bit About Everything
My friend had one and til this day I can vividly remember how great it felt to be in that car.
firstshadow
firstshadow Hace 8 meses
Thank you Jason, Hagerty and co for more great content! Keep up the great work :)
Randy King
Randy King Hace 5 meses
I had a 1993 RX7 and it was FU@KING AWSOME! Loved that car, drove it for about 13 years, awesome.
joel adair
joel adair Hace 7 meses
I have always wanted one of these. I wish I still had my 2nd gen.
5 STAR STUDIO
5 STAR STUDIO Hace 6 meses
One of my fovorite car's of all time. Thanks Hagerty
David Brown
David Brown Hace 3 meses
These are really well written. Cool reviews by smart(a**) motorheads? Thanks, Einsteins.
Brannon Worner
Brannon Worner Hace 8 meses
Jason, your the man man. Your personality is inspiring when comparing to the “oh the steering feel” black n white auto journalists. I’ve been reading all 3 major car magazines since 1989, and have most of them in storage. Your the man. Happy Holidays. Why not do a 1994 Impala SS, I had one and what a boat. My 2012 CTS V will eat it for dinner but that’s ok
JasonCammisa
JasonCammisa Hace 7 meses
@Jarod Kelly Thank you, that's much appreciated. So, focus on healing up and be careful out there - sorry to hear you got banged up!
Jarod Kelly
Jarod Kelly Hace 8 meses
@JasonCammisa I'm your biggest fan i want to get your autograph one day and drive my bike up to meet you. just crashed so I'll be down and out for 2 months but it's on the bucket list for sure. You're the greatest automotive commentator I've ever heard and I'm glad to see you still producing content for us enthusiasts out there who just want to learn and soak up all the knowledge there is.
gizmo
gizmo Hace 8 meses
Ahhh I too at one point owned a 2012 ctsv and impala at the same time. Mine was a black 96 tho. Today I own a challenger widebody hellcat and a 95 dggm impala along with some other toys. Good taste sir
JasonCammisa
JasonCammisa Hace 8 meses
Thank you! And the SS is on my list! I love that thing.
Rbrt Rdz
Rbrt Rdz Hace un mes
My first car was an 83 Rx7 limited edition. I bought it in 1994. My dream car was the 3rd Gen Rx7. By the time I got old enough to afford one, it had become a collectors item and too expensive for me to afford. It will forever be my dream car. Best car ever.
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